Success of classic wow should be a eye opener for devs

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I cannot explain why, but I felt compelled to rewrite and expand this into a Shakespearean sonnet;

Classic WoW is going to fail;
Because the problem is not the game;
People are going to gnash and wail;
When they find that it is no longer the same.

They have memories of a good ol’ time;
But alas, WoW is what it has become;
As the players are no longer in their prime;
Their bad attitudes makes them quite fearsome.

Blizzard, for all its skills, cannot address;
A player so bitter, that always complains;
One who abhors new Portal Rooms, and remains in distress;
Or shuns the new mount system, and on his Water Strider remains.

On this basis one must conclude
That WoW does not suck, and in fact, it is you.

~Tarc 5/18/2019

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It never was.

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New toy in the playpen. We’ll see how fast the kiddies get tired of it. But it does seem that that classic WoW is a different animal than vanilla WoW in look and feel and even gameplay.

Aside from the new money making opportunity for streamers, some people seem to like the new and improved vanilla++.

Maybe the takeaway from this is that retail WoW devs should finally finish WoD! lol

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Judging the success of the classic based upon people’s interest now is premature. And I’m sitting with a level 23 in classic beta right now. The only reason I’m there is because we’re at a lull in live where the only thing to do is raid or M+. Even the bulk of my alts are above the point where gear from Emissaries would have to forge to be an upgrade. I’m not even certain if I’ll invest any time when it goes live it’s just better than nothing to do which is where I sit on retail this close to the end of a tier.

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Well Classic is not successful yet. While I suspect it will have a fantastic launch, the real question will it still be active by the end of the year.

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“Hundreds of millions of dollars every month” from WoW?! Hahahaha.

Even if “hundreds” was only two hundred, that would equal $2.4B in a year. Even in the glory days of vanilla, BC, and WotLK, WoW wasn’t doing that much business.

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Enough. This is why nobody likes the Classic set over on General…or the class forums…or anywhere else.

Do you not have anything else to do? Do you not have anything to enjoy or occupy yourself with other than this?

Seriously. Get another hobby.

Classic is coming in August. It’s going to be huge for at least the first two months. You’re RUINING it with this constant ugliness. It’s so unattractive, your brand of smug, self-important, socially tone-deaf, indefatigable tunnel-vision.

We get it. We heard you. We know how you feel. It’s been noted, sir.

I share your wish that Classic take off and be big and full and fun. Why, for your set, this must include ruining retail WoW, is beyond my ability to comprehend. It’s ugly and unkind and a completely alienating turn-off.

Do you want the WoW population to join you in Classic…or do you want us to stay away from Classic because of the awful atmosphere you’re creating? It’s self-defeating. It’s going to leave you with a bitter, isolated group of club members and reduce the success of the very game you think you’re somehow promoting.

It’s an annoying broken record. Stop it. Stop burning down the game you claim to want to play…three months before it even releases. /smh

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I would say Hearthstone had a more explosive twitch presence than Classic.

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So this is what you do while I am napping on the couch? You become a poet?

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Lets revisit this in 1 year and see how well your comment ages. My prediction is classic will have millions more playing then retail. Retail will be a meme when talked about.

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You have a deal, bookmarking.

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Vanilla was more about elitism than any modern xpac. I think that will be the main reason why the streamers will gravitate to classic.

Remember, streamers get paid to play the game. It’s their day/night job. The gap between nubs/casuals and those who can spend 10+ hours a day farming or receiving gifts of mats from adoring fans will be huge. I expect the elitism in classic to get even worse than vanilla.

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The problem is that it doesn’t exist yet, in a real way.

People are saying something is successful, which is not here. So that is invalid.

Also, this was the EXACT problem with “Vanilla”; It strung you along, with the promise of better things on the horizon (which it did then not deliver.)

While leveling up, we were all thinking “Hey, this is really great and fun so I’m sure at max level it is great and there was a point to all this!”

Then you get to max level, where at first it seemed kind of like there was nothing. Then you are doing Onyxia, then Molten Core; Which was what all that other stuff was for. So you are there, with 40 people (only 10, or less, that you know in the least), and 3 things drop.

I remember how that was a real eye opener, that it was all for THAT. It was like the scales dropping from my eyes, on the road to Damascus “Oh, what? Oh no…”

At this point, it seems like trolling saying the thing is a “masterpiece.” It was incredibly bad and flawed.

It kind of reminds me of old people, when they talked about the good old days. But you see the old people using modern cell phones now, probably not thinking about what the “good old days” would be like without those things; You remember the feel you had for that old thing at THAT TIME, in the absence of better things.

Vanilla Wow was “great” because it finally got me out of Everquest for good. Then I saw how bad Vanilla was, with so very little to actually do besides raiding (which was pretty horrible, being such a huge time investment and your other “full time job” (with a spectacularly low rate of reward, as well. ) )

I don’t even really get saying how great it was based off playing the beta. It isn’t as good as just playing a low level character in current Wow, with all of the modern conveniences.

For all of these posts now, you’ll see an equal amount of “Fail” posts. They will come after it releases, then there is time where enough people get up to level 60. Then it will dawn on everyone, “Oh… right… this was it.”

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I like you.

I loved Vanilla and was a casual “friend of the guild” player for my first year (2005). I started getting more into the endgame stuff and raiding with my guild, which was a big one…and a friendly, successful one, in my second Vanilla year.

I miss that guild because, for me, that society piece WAS the game during Vanilla. Fortunately, a huge number of us are coming back together for Classic, and that is why it will be fun.

The people waxing nostalgic about conjuring four mana buns at a time are really revising their own memory. We hated it. We hated spamming for groups in trade chat. We hated leveling weapon skills. We hated carrying everything in our 12-slot bags. /nod

But I’m looking forward to Classic because my band is getting back together. I will be there as long as they are, and I will enjoy the first two months of leveling and seeing the old world as it was.

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To be fair look how long the game’s been going with likely the largest player base for this long. You can’t say that they did anything spectacularly wrong aside from with maybe this expansion.

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How about the removal of PvP vendors in Legion?

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Um, it hasn’t been released yet. There will be mass exits after the first month. The majority will not have the patience with the glacially slow leveling and ancient poor quest lines.

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That didn’t kill the game, though. Legion was un-arguably one of the most successful expansions even with huge blunders like the beginning of RNG, and the awful stat templates for PvP that were quickly taken back out after the expansion was over.

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Oh well what gutted the game has been decisions they’ve made over the course of each expansion.

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How is success determined before anything has been concluded?

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