The question is whether it was significantly lower. If it was in any way close, Blizzard will know that this kind of thing at least generates comparable numbers to a new expansion.
First off. It seems like BFA almost killed WoW subscriptions off.
Second you are making assumptions. The increase in subscription revenue doesn’t mean each is a one month subscription.
You could have people that payed for several months. There is no way to be even begin to estimate how many people resubbed.
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man. I mean I know people who enjoy classic, including myself, don’t have a taste for retail. But Jesus, really digging the heels into it this time.
" Despite this, total revenue was still lower than the Battle for Azeroth expansion last August."
So your point was. Clearly the numbers mean nothing without clear reference to what they mean and there is nothing on the site to indicate that. Did not know classic player IQ was so low.
It’s pretty much the single most reputable site for data about games sales etc, if you would like to actually see all of the details you would have to pay money.
Their model isn’t really making money off of ad revenue or interest online, but instead selling that data to other companies.
Because this data isn’t really meant to be seen by random people besides on a very basic level. They make their money by selling the data to game devs, publishers, etc so they can make informed decisions.
The amount of effort it would be to make this data ‘free’ to everyone simply is not worth it to them, they would not make their money back.
One can infer since BFA had six months of pre-order sales that were lumped in. Not only that, but the lackluster numbers before Classic indicate that the jump was clearly due to Classic.
Didn’t know classic players’ deductive reasoning was so low.
Just kidding dude. I think you’re absolutely right. For some reason, millions of new players all decided at once that BFA was so awesome that they all joined up in August. Classic had nothing to do with that, lol. Muppet.
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This whole thread is basically just people bashing the data because they don’t understand what it means or how this company got it.
Can someone paste the article for me, I don’t trust that link.
That’s fine. I’m enjoying Classic as well, as are over 100 of my returned guildies.
The problem arises when you misunderstand the information and make representations based on same. SuperData does not claim (as you do) “new accounts”, only additional subscriptions; the large majority of those are undoubtedly returning players.
SuperData relies on point-of-sale and payment provider data when they do not have access to publisher sales data for a specific game. It does not have access to Blizzard’s internal sales data for WoW; PoS data is largely irrelevant in this case; and their limited data pool precludes drawing accurate estimates across the WoW West territory. In a case like this they rely heavily on behavior-based extrapolations from public signaling around the game.
It’s more pointing out and explaining why this data point is soft and unspecific, and that hard and specific claims cannot be drawn from soft and unspecific data.
There were people who escaped wow all these years and were suddenly pulled in? pfff, now that is a bit hard to swallow. Was probably mostly people with new accounts that had previously played.
I thought that was implied. No one would think they’re new in an absolute sense but rather newly re-upping their subscriptions. I didn’t think I needed to state the obvious.
“You think you do but you don’t”. The words of the fool who is the head of Blizz now. Think about that.
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Like op has stated numerous times, just ignore his estimates and just focus on gains.
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I want to follow up on this once more, as it isn’t sitting right with me. Can you show me one post in my history that implies I didn’t or wouldn’t like Classic?
I spend most of my time arguing with liars and opinions I find far too ludicrous to not be trolling. What is it that makes me anti-classic, as some claim I am?
- My opinion that Classic is easy, even though I’ve said numerous times that it doesn’t matter as games don’t need to be difficult to be enjoyable?
- My opinion that the graphics are awful and I would love to see a graphically remastered client?
- What else? I honestly don’t know. I argue with people who claim retail is dead and provide no evidence whatsoever, while at the same time, disregarding all the evidence I provide to the contrary.
- I spent a lot of time debunking plenty of misinformation spread by many people on this forum. Like the nights being far darker in Classic than BfA. People around here are full of confirmation bias and anything that reinforces the negative stereotypes about “retail” is met with grand applause in the form of dozens of upvotes, regardless if it’s true or not.
I argued in favor of a content complete version of AV, which we’re not getting. Blizzard’s own reasoning for giving us 1.12 works against them in this case. They wanted to use 1.12 as it was the “most complete” version of Vanilla WoW. 1.12 AV was not the most complete version of AV.
I argued against loot trading, even after they made it raid only. Loot trading changes the dynamics of gear distribution in raids. Loot can be held onto in case a later boss drops something, the loot can be distributed more efficiently like this.
I never wanted Class balancing, the only changes I wanted were graphical toggles and Guild Banks. You can claim this is anti-classic if you want but I’m not going to let myself be lumped into the same category as people who legitimately want flying or Raid Finder.
This forum is extremely political, if you’re not completely on the side of Classic being perfect and “Retail” being the work of the devil, then you’re labeled the enemy. I just saw someone say they’re “in love” with Classic. I’ve never heard someone say they’re “in love” with something other than another person before, It’s disturbing how fanatical some people are.
I do… it WAS NOT retracted because it was ‘fake’, it was retracted because Blizzard SAID it was inaccurate and they wanted it removed because it did not portray their product in a good light.
The person who originally came up with the estimate was not lying, they made an estimate based on the data they had, and at the end of the day Blizzard had it removed because they didn’t like it. Them saying it was inaccurate does not mean it is actually inaccurate. So you believe everything every corporation ever tells you?
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You need a subscription to play Retail? LuL Why?
Just imagine if they used patch 1.3 instead of 1.12, and didn’t have servers with one hour queue times and longer. Word of mouth is the most powerful tool a business can have.
The word on the street is “it’s too easy” for raids, and long Que times just to get in the game. 1.3 would certainly of up the difficulty, and if they had double servers at the start people would have had little to say that was negative.
You do understand that the BfA launch revenue includes the 3.5 million copies of BfA they sold @$60 each?
In order to match that they would need to have 14 million subscribers @$15 per month, more than they’ve ever had at any point. The fact that a random month’s revenue can even be in the conversation with the revenue at an EXPANSION LAUNCH should tell you all you need to know.
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