Assassin is gonna be good for 2 to 3 target fights.
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Haha, where’s that gonna leave outlaw? That’s our niche!
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I guess 5 target;p
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Assassin prolly phase out outlaw in raids. But mythic + I’m gonna go out on a branch and say outlaw is going to be the go to spec.
False. Outlaw will still be best on heavy add fights and will be on par or better than sin for single target
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How many heavy add fights are there in this raid? I haven’t spent any time in raids yet but hoping to soon with guild possibly changing raid schedule. I’m going off past expansions. Main boss or 2 and a focus target add spawns. Shadow step burn it and back to boss.
Just stop dude. Personal conversations are not needed and you have already been outed as an inexperienced rogue who had no idea what simple vocabulary words mean, let alone how the class functions at a high level. Just leave the conversation and try to learn something. Stop derailing it.
Shriek is st
Huntsman is 2 target cleave
Xymoc is single target
Hungering is single target
Innerva is single target with add spawns
Council is 3 target cleave
Sludgefist is st
Stone legion is two target
Sire is heavy add cleave
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You also can’t use past expansions because this expansion is different with world first guilds wiping on heroic when it first came out.
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This tier has a good amount of cleave / small target AoE. Sun King is the only real ‘add fight’, but several others will have either continuous add spawns throughout the encounter or 2 targets up for almost the entire fight.
The single target fights tend to be the ‘gimmi’ ones in this tier, with the exception of Sludgefist.
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Sub could get pretty hefty ST buffs but there would still be no reason to take a sub rogue over an Unholy DK or a Fire mage, who do more damage and bring more utility.
Sadly Fire mage especially just fills the burst window niche better than Sub in basically every way right now. They can combust on every pillar in Sludge.
Damage profiles are all over the place right now, certain specs right now bring heavy single target and aoe damage WHILE having utility.
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#roguescanthavenicethings
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Truth! We can’t catch a break this go around. Between the BS pvp nerf due to all the boo hooing and being stuck in the middle life as a rogue is kind of lame right now. That said, I’ll never give up playing my rogue.
You’re delusional or didn’t play rogue at the start. The Kyrian one shot sequence macro was 100% an issue.
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I’m perfectly happy with delusional and I wasn’t pvping again until a few weeks ago but I still think Blizz over nerfed us. We went from being terrors to stun bots. I know that gear will improve that but unless you have guildies to play a decent comp, or are willing to be a cheese and pay to get carried, a causal solo player has a ceiling that is hard to overcome losing that damage. My two bits but there you have it.
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That’s because this isn’t a solo player game. If you want to perform you have to have friends to play with.
Solo players will always be on the low end.
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There is no more hybrid tax. That is why I say Rogue players should be more openly advocating for more utility and more DPS in feedback threads that BlizZard reads.
Not only at the single target, but it also sucks how we have to actually lose pounds sweating while struggling to keep up useful DPS on trash packs through fast paced M+ runs after blowing the 3 min. cd Shadow Blades on the initial pack (picture such a scenario, it’s like every dungeon), WHILE also being melee in a totally melee unfriendly environment, evading taking deadly damage from mobs AND the usual M+ weekly crap on the ground. Not to mention that we’re expected to interrupt every single cast, soothe every enrage, stun every single mob (even the unstunnable ones lol) and take zero damage throughout the run (because they read somewhere that rogues have this god-mode survivability (like DKs aren’t actually tougher than us on that matter with their AMZ’s, AMS’s, IBF’s, DS’s, DP’s lol… AND, they do a ton more dmg than us).
All that while mages/hunters/druids get to just stand yards away on safe ground doing the deeps while back-pedalling and keyboard-turning like crazy, making us look totally useless on the charts, on many occasions waring a lot crappier gear than ours.
Like would if kill you to just bump up Black Powder’s damage a little? Not like it’s ever used in PvP anyway. If it is, then well, this game really went to poop from where it was when we had things like resilience, armor pen, hit rating, expertise to worry about… You know, before it got plenty dumbed down.
sub is about burst as long as it has burst people will cry about it until its nerves so hard that you never see one or don’t care if one is attacking you.
I feel like most wow players want a rogue to be a non factor and can’t stand when one can come from the shadows and solo them.
You’re playing a single target spec. What were you expecting?