This was my favorite post in that thread:
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Itâs raining. In California. In summer.
Iâm scared.
I didnât mass flag him. He can, however, celebrate the fact that my sub ends soon.
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Same. Itâs tiring being a victim and shamed for wanting justice, and watching the culture you fell in love with slowly snuffed out in the name of lazy writing and homogenization.
Also the Horde doesnât have humans. You donât have to worry about your player experience and fantasy marginalized because you didnât pick the âcorrectâ race at the character creation screen. Humans are the only race that Blizzard cares about, and allowed to have any significance, much less lead in the Alliance.
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Yeah, what blizzs writers did to the Kaldorei and their players is simply horrible. I really do feel bad for you guys, most NE players like you and Amadis, have been nothing but kind here.
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True. I am giving the Belves increasingly more side eye though. Because theyâve gotten two heritage quests when 3 out of 4 of the OG Red races donât have them. And somehow they got the new playable undead customization options and most of the Sylvanas novel.
But so far in DF Iâm seeing more Orcy goodness which is encouraging. I get people got tired of them in WoD but as someone who didnât play that itâs been weird seeing pretty minimal Orc storylines from the past 3 expansion.
And I of course enjoyed the Lordaeron Reclamation quest quite a bit. But I still have the pronounced lingering fear that the Forsaken will be left at that plot point for years to come.
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Blizzard is looking to do User Research with gamers who have disabilities.
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So, I decided my Magâhar, while being a hunter on the side for survival reasons, is mostly going to be a mostly non violent fishermen/archaeologist.
Just heaven forbid he runs into a Lightforged Draenei 
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The Forsaken really suffer from story exposure in that Sylvanas was essentially their only representation. Not that she was terrible by any means (up until a certain point for some folks) but she didnât really represent all of the wonderful facets of the Forsaken that deserved to have a spotlight.
WotLK should have been THEIR moment along with the Sinâdorei but it really got overshadowed by the Argent Crusade and Human Potential⢠and they have been effectively dropped like a hot potato to be represented by Sylvanas and Sylvanas only in recent narrative. The Lordaeron Reclamation quest was awesome despite the Forsaken not really getting any tangible reward from it (I love my Darkfallen skin, but I understand the PoV in that it wasnât really a reward for the UD fanbase), but I do hope they keep the momentum of focusing on the uniqueness of the Forsaken going forward.
TBH I am/was pretty bummed about the direction the took Sylvanas in, I was a big fan of her character for a long time but it will be really interesting to see how the Forsaken fare without their near fanatical devotion to her. It was part of their personalities for so long that itâs hard to imagine them without her but I think in the long-run it will give some much needed character diversity to them overall.
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The Forsaken have effectively been a cult of personality up until now. Sylvanas being gone will ironically let them make choices she would never of made herself.
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At face value, definitely.
We should take bets to see how long it takes them to change their click dialogue praising the Dark Lady, although I suppose they probably still have reverence for her in a way.
⌠Someone should probably tell the Draenei that the Legionâs end has already happened though.
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âŚWhat did our local Lightforged do? Theyâre innocent of everything except hoof-to-the-facing* demons!
*Except not really because for some reason, Blizzard decided no Lightforged monks even though 2 of their very few NPCs are extremely monk coded, including the one you follow on the unlock quest no Iâm not salty about that why would I be mad at how @^#%@ annoying it is NOT to have a face punching glowstick?
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Still thinking of making a Blackrock Warrior Engineer. Not sure if thereâs enough iron star tech stuff to make it work.
Definitely would call him something like Balgorc. BalâGorc the Science Orc.
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This was such an incredibly confusing choice on Blizzardâs part. Why canât they be devoted to the Light but also like punching people in the face? Why are these two mutually exclusive? Why give us golden hooves if we canât kick anyoneâs teeth out with them? FOR SHAME.
I believe the Blackrock were the primary engineers of the Iron Horde not just for their Iron Star tech but for lots of other things as well. Let BalâGorc the Science Orc FLUORISH dammit!
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To my orc, the lightforged and Lightbound are essentially the same. And heâs extremely traumatized by the fanatical light wielders. He lost his family and mate to them
That sounds awesome actually. Thereâs enough engineering stuff if you have the engineering building in your garrison plus the engineering profession to make it work.
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Still mad we didnât go with calling Draenor Orcs dorcs for short.
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Itâs doubtful they will hit the same level as Orc, much less human oversaturation.
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I think the Sinâdorei attention also differs in that itâs met with pretty positive feedback overall. Their specific quests are enjoyable and give a nice sense of BE pride without ruining their past characterization or feeling too oversaturated. (At least, in my opinion)
They also donât feel like all facets of the Horde have been overtaken by BE content similar to how Orcs and Humans tend to be all encompassing within their respective faction theme. (I feel this more heavily with humans on the Alliance than Orcs though, tbh.) I feel like they do however, toe the line a bit with BE/UD overlap, usually giving the spotlight to the elves over the Forsaken, but Iâm hopeful that weâll see less of that in the future with new and interesting ACTUAL Forsaken characters coming up.
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