Story Forum Community Lounge (Part 1)

When Blizz anoints a council and says it will use that council as a lens to see the community- I welcome information on these people Blizzard is appointing as a reflection of the community.

Baal and Doness were not discussing things like addresses or phone numbers. They were letting the community know what the council members have said in the past, and I think it is important to know what drives their issues with WoW.

One of the reasons Blizz made this council was so they could spark discussion. And then they suspend people for the discussion their hand selected council sparks.

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I mean even on twitter or facebook you don’t need to start posting addresses or phone numbers to get shut down. If Blizzard lets players openly incite harrassment on their forums and then something happens they will be completely responsible.
Thats why they got all these ToS’ in place to protect against that.

If Baal and Doness were just talking on the forums with that other person then I doubt anything would have happened. Its when they tried to incite that they got shut down. Otherwise we would all be banned by now for all the things we say around here.

If people don’t want to be called out for the things they say, than they should be thinking twice before posting.

Again, this is all on blizzards shoulders for putting people with sketchy and outright racist views on a council

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Getting called out on these forums and inciting a mob to harrass someone are two different things.
That’s how Blizzard, twitter, facebook and many other social medias see things. I am just stating the fact, if you are unhappy with it… I don’t know make a petition?
I think even the new social behavior contract says something to the same effect ingame as well… so I guess you better send an extra strongly worded letter.

Okay, guys we can have this argument later, Doness may be hurt/injured, so please if you have any contact with him, please use those channels to reach out to him. Please. On discord, on Bnet anything. it’s time to put aside petty conflict and help one of our own.

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He is in a guild right? Login and contact anyone online on his guild, someone might be able to contact him

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That’s a good suggestion Smallz I will try it. Ty.

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You can also contact GMs for a wellness check, they have access to information that surpasses us, obviously.

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Doness needs a wellness check. If you can assist.

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Done. Contacted blizzard live chat.
They are aware of the severity and will do what they can from their end.

Godspeed Mhaedarnoe.

Edit: Blizzard GMs asked me to inform them if you guys hear anything from him from discord or something.

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Thank you so much Smallz <3

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I think Doness is okay, for anyone wondering.

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Uh.

WTF?

So. All of this is news to me. Could anyone give me a quick rundown on WTF is happening? There’s a council now? Council of who, and to what end?

Excellent news.

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There’s a official council that blizz handpicked people for. The intention was for these people to represent the community at large and try to get certain story/game mechanics people want in the game.

So far, some of the people they selected ended up either being racist, sexist or homophobic or some combination of all three……It went about as well as you would expect after those revelations came out.

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From what pool of players?

They just hand selected some randos to dictate what the story should be?

Why TF wouldn’t they use the forums and just gauge what seems to be getting the most positive/negative feedback?

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Because reading the forums and suggestions from people passionate about their game, aka us….would mean blizz would have to put some actual effort into it. Most of the people they handpicked were blizzard fanboys anyway….and racist,sexist,etc.

So yeah, the council is kind of a joke to the majority of the community now from what I gather.

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So they looked for Yes Men and were surprised to learn the ones who were thumbs up about the storylines written by literal hands on misogynists were a touch problematic?

There is such a thing as toxic positivity.

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Pretty much yeah. Truthfully? I’m not even sure if the whole council is still a thing to be honest. Last I heard, they still hadn’t picked anyone for the story portion of the council and that was months ago.

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People had to apply. The goal was to select people from a broad variety of play styles from a wide variety of communities. So RP folks, pet battlers, PvP, solo casual, transmog, AH, Accessibility concerns/deaf/blind, etc. They represent themselves, given they are not elected reps.

You can learn about the program here https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/world-of-warcraft/23743182/introducing-the-world-of-warcraft-community-council

In December they went through apps and selected the first 30 or so. There was some drama when one decided to make himself the representative of the council (despite the other members saying it was a bad idea), open a Discord called the “seat of the council”, have it be unmoderated and make racist comments, etc. Also kind of spammy - then went on a streamer’s show and doubled down. Not on the council anymore.

The rest of the drama is focused on one person and I won’t get into it because I don’t do Discords and don’t know the details.

If you want to know about the 60 or so people on it you can head over to the Council forum. All discussions with the Devs of Blizz have to be there for full transparency.

Start with the Intro thread and you can see a wide variety of player types. Maybe someone will be similar to you interest wise.

The goal is to have around 100 people active and to keep rotating them as needed and/or every year.

And no, they don’t want just “yes men”.

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