I get called crazy, delusional, self centered every day. Grandbalde called me really nasty things, like he got personal, he called me a terrible mother for liking Sylvanas, that one was the nastiest I think. (if you know me irl, I have two sons who I’m trying to raise to be stable and responsible kids, and they are wonderful. They are so kind.) He thought I actually was Sylvanas for a hot minute and started projecting his hatred for her onto me… one time I got called out for being too positive. This forum is a hard place to thrive with paper thin skin.
One of the reasons that sexism and misogyny is such a hot button topic for me is because i am raising sons. I am hyper vigilant about it. I see how easily youtubers and streamers can indoctrinate young minds, especially in gaming. when I make generalizations it’s not directed at one person usually but at the “manosphere” because I experience it daily, I have to censor it daily to protect my kids from adopting really distructive opinions, on themselves and on women.
Today, a troll called me useless and the lowest quality player the game had to offer. I find that one person insulting you is not a huge deal, but multiple people agreeing with them and ganging up on you can be.
Denona, you were singled out because instead of refuting the statement you went at the posters making the statement.
This last one wasn’t even about Sylvanas. Renautus directed that at Amonet for waving off a poet for the poet’s causes.
While others pointed out their claims were not relevant to the people posting in the thread and rebutted by stating their actual reasons for being there, you basically were waving red flags in their face and drawing hostility towards yourself when it was unnecessary.
I actually did refute the statement several times. But of course just cherry pick lines from my posts. Make me out to be the villain.
I even admitted that I do sometimes do this all the time, regardless of the gender of the person I do it to. But somehow this one instance makes me a sexist automatically.
And your decision was to cherry pick my post and intentionally miss my point. If you don’t want an answer to your question you shouldn’t bother asking it.
But it is also alarming that those bonds can be broken so easily over petty things.
I even apologized for my behaviour in that thread before our second “argument” started. And All I did in that case was point out that something she claimed was sexist actually wasn’t. And I got blocked for doing so.
In that same thread I did apologize for my behaviour. It was wrong for me to say those sort of things. But as Cursewords can back me up on, I say those sort of things to anyone I strongly have an issue with what they said. Because I did the same thing to him a few mouths back. Regardless of the content. So why is it in this one instance it is sexist?
I’ve even did it to Thadeus while in agreement with Ren.
So it is not like she can claim it came out of nowhere.
I made a list of people I think had legitimate gripes with Sylvanas who I personally respected and who I didn’t think were sexist and Denona was on that list he just didn’t read the thread and reacted to where he left off.
That was his first mistake. The second mistake was not going back to read and get caught up when he was asked to, and the third was becoming almost ignorant to admitting any accountability for his actions and responses.
I actually went back this morning and edited this list to remove Denona because I had lost respect for him, but it was there all day yesterday, all he had to do was get caught up. I named Doness, Denona, Evelysaa, Amadis as people who I had respected and knew enough about their position on Sylvanas to not see them as sexist and it’s not my problem anymore Denona missed that post.
I guess it depends on what you mean. I don’t tend to follow the group think. I take people as I see them.
Me and you have had some insulting words. I don’t think of you as a sexist, just because someone else called you that. I think we disagree on a lot of topics- but I don’t know you well enough to say that. Maybe Ren feels they know you well enough.
I don’t mean to devalue Ren, so much as point out that you can hold your truth about yourself against what ever gossip or name calling the peanut gallery believes.