For pushing, this change to their score means most of us pushing will continue to use raider io and only actually push on fortified.
Tyrannical. is. not. fun. Incentive with some score or achievement or not, you cannot make me do something that is not fun. I won’t do it. I’ll either A) not get KSM and continue to push only on fortified or B) just unsub.
I thought skilled KSM people looks for a challenge… having fun with the challenges. I was expecting them to say “Bring it on… make it harder”. Instead, I am seeing the opposite… cowards.
Again, I am not KSM yet but I am fine for whatever challenges in front of me.
Tyrannical is not a challenge. It’s just not fun. Bosses that last 6 minutes because they continuously knock players out of the fight, bosses (SD) that just one shot the entire team. I like a challenge. That’s why I’ve done +20s and +21s across the board (minus SD). I do not like something that just adds length and annoyance for no reason. Tyrannical should be deleted not incentivized.
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Good then. Becoz you dont need to go to +20s and +21s anymore. You could now find the challenge at +15s Tyrannicals.
Tyrannical not being a “push week” is for people doing keys in the 20-30 range. For some reason, though, people in the 10-15 range pretend it’s some massive hurdle. Yeah, a few bosses are certainly harder than others in the 14-18 range but to get ksm it looks like you’ll be able to do a slightly lower tyrannical and then make up the rest with higher fortified.
Tyrannical historically becomes a problem when you start getting one shot by mechanics, really tight dps checks or soft enrages. Fortified is generally easier because you can hard cc or kill half a pack, wipe then come back and finish it.
Most people will be perfectly fine. Anyone who was already pushing their limit at 14-15 might be in a tiny bit of trouble until they outgear it.
I haven’t read what it’s going to be like without pride though so maybe s2 will be a lot harder?
Edit: I’m not really for the change or the reskinned mount, but for those aiming for just ksm it’s not too bad (I don’t think it fixes or improves anything though). If you want to go higher or your guild is carrying dead weight through 15s then yeah it’s annoying
lucky you 12 days to go. i bet you will not return ever again cuz 9.2 will be same poop anyway XD
Why wouldn’t you try for KSM? I’m going to, but if I don’t make it I’m just going to chalk it up to Blizzard being dumb af. I also figure 15s late in the season probably won’t be too bad on tyrannical anyway.
Players: complains about Tyrannical since its inception
Blizzard: “Oh! I know how to revitalize the game! Let’s force them to do Tyrannical!”
Launch both Fortified and Tyrannical into the sun and move the seasonal to +2.
Making the seasonal relevant for the entire, y’know, season actually sounds pretty good to me.
Yep! Neither tyrannical nor fortified make the dungeons more fun for me. Just bake them into the base key and let level 2/3 dungeons be without an affix. People are just getting used to the timer in 2/3 so it’s not like they need an affix anyway.
No, tyrannical not being a “push week” is due to
It’s terrible combination with other affixes in the rotation. Example: Tyrannical last SD boss with storming.
THE DESIGN OF THE BOSSES THEMSELVES! Who doesn’t love having an extra two minutes tacked onto the run because your group fell 1% short of stopping an intermission or RP phase or whatever (BFA didn’t have this problem). How about last NW boss with his millions upon millions of health, turning a M+ fight into a 5+ minute raid boss slog?
Personally i am shocked to see Blizzard doubling down on Tyrannical, I mean how could anyone see so much negative feedback about a system and double down on it.
Imagine if they doubled down on Covenants or Torghast and i dunno, introduced covenant specific legendaries and Torghast M+
I prefer tyrannical but thanks. Sorry you’re bad at avoiding mechanics?
I’m dreading the day they integrate Torghast’s scoring system into M+ runs. I just know that someone on that team is dreaming up the idea.
“Say boss, we can increase time played metrics by making keystone upgrades contigent on getting a 4/5 gem M+ run!”
I guess the nice part of Tyrannical is knowing whether your run is over on the first boss of DOS instead of having to wait.
Even a nasty turd has a pristine piece of corn.
Because it would’ve been hard enough for me to get any of my friends to try for it with me while having to do every dungeon on a 15 once.
I’m also not willing to completely pug all of that cause it gives me anxiety.
I also think it’s ridiculous to double the effort required for the same rewards.
I’m not someone who regularly gets KSM at all. I was already intimidated by it this season (+ no idea how people have people that actually want to do it with them) but probably would’ve tried for it if it had not been for many people I know leaving or just not playing anymore. If it requires me to put in twice the effort just so I get a recolor of a mount I actually would’ve liked I also don’t really know if I even want it anymore.
It’s not the only thing that’s demotivating either.
Good luck out there, OP. I hope you find something you enjoy doing.