Stop Saying "Yeah But You Wanted the Vanilla Experience"

Then you are an exception to the rule. Most people don’t care about fair fights, or about challenges. They want to win. The people who are really serious about fair PvP battles go to Arena or FPS games, not open world killsprees. In WoW, those people really ought to be on a PvE server, and then wait for BGs to come out.

Try not playing rogue and even give alliance a shot. It’s like a completely different game, it’s like actually entering a PvP server with all the risk, danger and punishment attached.

I guess I am one of the fools. I have certain rules. I don’t attack a player if that player is outnumber by NPCs, unless that player is attacking a player unfairly. If that player screwed up I’ll let the fight go. He or she should have figured it out.

That’s the kind of thing you see on PvE servers when people are flagged. On PvP servers? Red is dead.

people don’t even realize how much this faction imbalance has already messed the game up our servers alliance aren’t even logging on anymore no groups are happening how is this good for the game?

That was always going to happen, you know. Alliance just doesn’t PvP in the same numbers as Horde does. There’s a reason why PvP servers died off in retail, after all.

I play other characters. And believe it or not, rogues die too.

The only rogues who die are the ones who mismanage their cooldowns, engagements and make many mistakes. Especially in this 1.12 version of Vanilla with TBC levels of Vanish protection.

I die fighting orc’s rogues because even if i started on them? they always resist stuns. not once? But they always resist 2out of 3 & 3stuns out of 4

The mentality of people are different than back then aswell. Nothing is going to be the same.

True but at least for tbc it will be much easier to find those casual guilds imo. With 10 man raiding and 25 man raiding it just makes it easier to find that group of people who are just chill and not worried about min maxing every possible little thing like world buffs and stuff.

There will be that, no doubt. But it’s a lot harder to get around when you’re needing 40 people for the raid. Christ on one of my alts in tbc all I did was raid with one guild who just wanted to do Kara and gruuls basically forever. But you are right it will be different