If you’re a person who says “well [insert AWC player here] makes it work, so can you.” Just don’t do it. Just don’t.
Professional players know all the little things and strategies to win. Comparing the average player to the very best is one of dumbest things you can do.
And to dismiss what the average player says because they are not [insert AWC player here] is also very dumb.
If you do this, please stop.
Awc players are just average players in the grand scheme of video games though. If all the top LCS teams/players and best Dota 2 TI competitors/players quit their respective games and dedicated their lives to wow for a year they would be better than almsot every r1 player and most awc teams.
comparing average players to average players is fair.
well, thats definitely a perspective? i guess.
This thread would have way more merit if it wasn’t made due to swole coping hard at his legend achievement being disrespected in another thread
My sides are still on fire from the basketball analogy
cant stop wont stop
I think its healthy to compare yourself to the best at whatever it is. If not sometimes a little overeager.
I never liked the justification of r1s smurfing with “youll have to vs them eventually” or “its great learning experience” which i think has parallels to what youre talking about swole, but i think a more constructive approach is useful
Best to learn step by step from the ground up than take a shortcut and be out of your depth imo
which thread are you referring to?
okay so if i ask you to cook me a meal, and it doesn’t turn out to be very good, where i then say “this is no meal gordon ramsay would cook.” is that really fair?
Trash take.
Those little things aren’t classified secrets, all the information is out there for anyone to see.
Not even close.
Gordan Ramsay is just an overrated tv personality. In the grand scheme of chefs he is just an average cook.
its actually not. especially how fast the meta is changing in dragonflight. new information is always being learned, and the people who are first to learn it, tend to be higher up.
bro come on.
It amazes me how you always find a way to be wrong.
Everything after this comment. Should have clarified
This is… correct, but your secondary conclusion that this makes the top of the WoW ladder average players is wildly incorrect. Higher population means the tippy top of the League ladder is very likely to be better than the tippy top of the WoW ladder, but the best WoW players would still probably be somewhere in the 99th percentile if they committed the same way to League. They would rocket past literally millions (globally) of actual average (or worse) players in skill at the game, despite those average players having played the game for years and years.
He’s correct though. Competitive video game players commonly have this incredibly toxic combo of pride, arrogance, and self-deprecation. They have an incredibly difficult time with the concept that someone can be “good” despite you being much better than them, and despite others yet being much better than you. That’s why we have different words for differing degrees of excellence. Someone can be good, and you can be great, and someone else can be amazing. Someone can be even further beyond them and be phenomenal, and an absolute prodigy that changes the game could be immaculate and nearly beyond description.
Honestly some great points but just to play devils advocate if someone is making it work then so can you. Just saying 
I don’t agree that’s he’s right, but I do believe that the motive behind this thread diminishes it immensely
It could be a decent conversation to have but he’s a bad messenger
sure but we have to look at whats realistic.
i really dont think so. i think years of experience + talent would beat out someone entering a competitive scene in a different game. if someone like pikaboo, who is fairly intelligent, has good motor skills, and has networking skill, tried to play league, i think he would get far, but he wouldn’t be faker or some of the best of the best.
we actually do have an example of a wow player entering the league competitive scene and its bluedrew, whos actually pretty good at league. just not at the professional level. the other guys just have so much more time and xp.
same thing with league players, they could quit league and play wow(although i dont know why they would) they wouldn’t be better than pikaboo, or brain, or cdew. because those players are intelligent people + they have countless hours of experience. sure they could probably get close to rank 1, but they wouldn’t be the best of the best(within a year at least).
maybe if they had some help along the way like professional coaches, and they dedicated all 16 hours a day they could do it.
Wow isn’t really a game like CS GO where you need to have insane skill and reflexes to be at the top. It is a game all about knowledge.
What is so unrealistic?
gaining all that knowledge is difficult. thats why i added in this part.
there’s A LOT of game knowledge in wow, that you take for granted cause you’ve been playing for years.
could someone do it? its possible. is it likely, especially for an average player? probably not.
You said its unrealistic. Being difficult and unrealistic are not even remotely the same.
Every competitive game has a big learning curve when knowledge is concerned