Still doesn't beat Legion, sorry Blizz <3

Just someone trying to drag politics into a discussion it doesn’t belong in, then will play the victim when they are called out for it.

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Being honest, I’ve been replaying TWW on another character for the story (taking it slow) and the beginning is rather… simple I suppose. Sure Dalaran exploding and the Khadgar fake out was big, but… It wasn’t Armies against armies, and Varian and Vol’jinn actually dying level.

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Alot of hate towards artifact power grind and I don’t get why. It was a damn cool and powerful weapon and personal to your character and centered around class fantasy.

It’s literally sitting in your bank as a reminder of how fun that whole expansion was!

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I disagree. I’m enjoying this far more so far.

Unpopular opinion, but I actually liked artifact grind. it gave a nice simple sense of forward progression at level cap. And at least you could get AP from doing anything in the game. It was before they added content shuffle, where you need to do one thing in order to progress in the other thing.

And world quests were also super fun and easy, and got great reward pacing with emissary chests.

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The artifact grind hate I think mostly came from the high end players who felt obligated to grind it the max they could to keep up, and I totally understand that.
I never worried too much about it and in the beginning I liked leveling up my artifact weapon and unlocking new powers for it.

They had some real catchup mechanisms that increased your artifact power gains each week so I never felt that far behind and never stressed about it.

I had a much bigger problem with the RNG legendaries. It took me until my 5th or 6th one until I got one I actually wanted and some of them were just silly utility while others were big power increases.

Still though, nothing nearly as bad as what shadowlands had.

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Because the boogeyman was standing behind players at the computer forcing them to login every day and making them do every single world quest in the zones :rofl: Goodtimes on the forums lol. Had me so worried I was constantly looking around while playing, scared that boogeyman was going to show up and force me to do stuff I didn’t feel like doing :crazy_face: Not much difference imo. Multiple currencies needed for this and that nowadays are the new ap.

Hard to beat Legion OP.
It did so many things, so well.

I love that idea and implementation, sorry =/

Legion was ahead of its time in a few ways.

The profession system was bulked out in a way we hadn’t seen before. I do think Dragonflight’s system and onward is better, though… but it was pretty amazing, in Legion, to have very involved quests surrounding your given profession. Finding masters out in the world etc.

Artifact Weapons felt like a much more involved “hero talents” system. Yeah yeah “grind” but it was progression past max level, of course it was going to be a bit grindy.

The class halls and class quests surrounding them were pretty peak. Each one felt like an appropriate love letter to the class in question. The fantasy was high, especially when working in the artifacts too.

Suramar went way, way, way harder than it had to. It was a beautiful, realized city. Ajz-kahet tries to be evocative of that but it isn’t stacking up for me, yet. Amazing environment with that hidden-resistance vibe.

I like TWW but I feel it’s a little more rushed than Dragonflight. DF’s zones felt more fleshed out and dense, even at the start of the expansion. I’m sure TWW will ramp up.

Both DF and TWW are absolutely a huge improvement over Shadowlands.

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Pretty much. I do put some of the blame on the devs though. Folks were burning themselves out trying to max the weapons out when they were never meant to be. They waited too long, but one of the devs did finally say that the weps were never going to be maxed out. We’re not intended to be. Puposely done probably. To keep players engaged, and not just say oh well weapon is as far as I need it to be I’m done.

your name is great.

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At this point in Legion people were getting the wrong legendary and looking at potentially weeks of being behind everyone until they got the legendaries that were actually good.

Or they wouldn’t care this hard for a single failure point for progression and just enjoyed the huge ilvl bump and nice effect from their legendary that could even come from a WQ reward.

Too bad min/maxer raiders, as usual, killed a great system.

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Legion is peak WoW, for sure.

TWW is the definition of filler content, though. I don’t think anyone is going into the Worldsoul Saga expecting greatness, just competence and entertainment.

It was in several aspects, I will never not look back fondly on the Time I got a legendary weapon (arguably the best equipment one can have) and wielded and upgraded it to the peak. Also elves are way cooler than dwarves or Dragon wannabes. The Bfa Trolls and Midgut foxes were cooler than sexually confused dwarves. Honestly ever since legion and the sealing of Sargeras i was conflicted. Like what could ever top that. The old Gods made a decent opponent in BFA and the new divinities made shadowland kind of interesting, I skipped DA but its hard to see this new enemy as anything more dangerous than something a highly trained rogue couldn’t deal with.

Maybe not the peak but was right up there. Never saw the zones in the open game world so active prior to Legion. I guess the last time was after the Argent tour grounds in Wrath came out. But that was just a few dailies in one zone. That is why I loved Legion. Because it actually felt like there was a world to Warcraft. Every zone had tons of people out doing stuff. Got even better when the Legion invasions started, people everywhere participating when the invasions were happening. Understand some of the complaints with Legion, but overall it was great imo.

Legion will always be my fav xpac. The class fantasy was top tier with the class halls and legion weapons. I still lvl my alts thru the legion timeline. Highmountain has to be one of my fav zones. Just something about it draws me back.

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and to think i skipped legion caz i thought it would be boring and i ha burnt myself out of wow at that time…

For me it’s the night skybox up in the mountains. Those stars were amazing! That and the music of course.

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I still occasionally go chill in Suramar just to absorb the environment and atmosphere, that city is so huge and alive. I don’t think I’ve ever seen anything as breathtaking in wow since then.

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