sigh the old range was not ~ok the finer points of bs dev babble clearly go over your head
Well, not exactly
Originally you could change the combat log range, out to a max of 200 yards, i dont think you could set it farther.
50 yards is not super far, even in some of the 5 man instances, though you dont tend to get too far from your group in a 5 man, usually.
In some of the raids though, different story.
Go to SW and drop a marker on the inn keeper at the bank in
now back out of the inn til game distance reads 50 yards.
Can still see the inn keeper plain as day, probably shoot her in the face if
you were a hunter or something.
(you will need a map addon to drop a marker)
I’d have rather seen stealth somehow obfuscated from the combat log
But you play undead rogue so no-one cares.
If your class got dumpstered and you spent all your play time getting camped by addon-having alliance, you still wouldn’t warrant any sympathy.
If you quit the game over this, people would be happy.
I always have mine up. You just need to get better at being a rogue.
Lots of people did over the many years since vanilla, however next to no one did originally. This has been discussed to death, as well as it’s already been changed from that 400 yard diameter, to the 100 yard diameter it is now.
Says the one that shreds health on a CC’d target, playing a race that can’t be easily CC’d itself… You’re just mad he can break your up to 10 second fear lol…
See how this works? All classes have their strong suits and can be insulted on it.
this legit just happened to me. Mind visioned from 20 yards away without anyone knowing i was there. Thinking about quitting this game because of the spy addon.
nah, getting mind visioned through stealth from 30 yards away isn’t normal. i 100% blame spy for this.
…spy literally cannot do what you’re claiming.
The only way someone could mind vision you is if they could see you.
Actually… I don’t have to see you.
All I need to do is target you off the box created by Spy, and use the ability. However, I cannot do this to stealthed units. They are untargetable.
Started to level a rogue to test some of the stuff that came up in this thread. Can add that I’m level 42 right now. 86% move speed stealthed according to in game movement script. So 91% should be the base stealthed movement speed.
Looks additive to me after looking at it.
Fantastic, thanks!
Honestly going to keep at this rogue now lol, fairly fun class to play. Was going to be my fourth character to level (after hunter/mage), but this thread just moved it up in the line. Can say, stealth isn’t as slow feeling as I thought it’d be in classic since I never played rogue in vanilla.
You can’t get MC’d if you are already in stealth, once your stealth is active, you cant be targeted.
Now you can be made unstealthed, flares, AOE Goggles etc, and then MC’d as soon as you pop out or become visible to the person.
Prowl and detect are great for calling in friendly fire on those who think they are not seen
i am, it’s got a lot of useful info. it’s there for a reason.
That’s not how it works.
If they can’t SEE you clicking the box does nothing. You can’t target someone in stealth you can’t see. I use spy, I should know. (Edit: Oh I see what you did. You just 'uhm, akshewalee’d me with a pedantic argument even though you knew what I meant. I missed that.)
He’s claiming that he was MVed while he was stealthed because of the Spy addon.
Yeah, that.
He didn’t say mind controlled, he said mind visioned. Two very different spells.
I stand corrected. Same thing. You can’t cast a spell on a stealthed target unless you’re close enough to see them through their stealth. Which is what I said.
The whole story was a steaming load of propaganda to get players to accept lots more upcoming changes. Those poor rogues, how they suffered until spy was disabled to make ganking into welfare ganking.
Over here I just posted some changes. We’ve had plenty already.