State of Mistweaver PVP - Shadowlands (Week 1)

Clip from Vanguards

Vanguards on the State of Mistweaver

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Ayyy! I’m the one in his twitch chat asking him about MWers!

Sadge.

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Been playing a mistweaver since the start of Legion. Feels like since then, Mistweavers keep losing more and more to their utility, playstyle, and overall fun of the spec. In Shadowlands, we got our wall nerfed (for some reason), Cocoon CD back to 2 min (or 1 min 35 sec with PVP talent) from the 55 sec it was in BFA, and Crane still feels unplayable. MW is just a healbot at this point, with lackluster healing on top of it. We really need changes, and I feel like number tuning won’t be enough.

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Came back to SL from mop and chose MW coz it was the most fun, it’d be nice if we could cocoon thru stun, make statue baseline and remove the gcd as well as the interrupt on soothing mist.

Agree on roll cancel and in the limited rbg and raid runs I’ve done it feels hard to keep up with other healers at times. What’s the best feedback option, might try submit it ingame.

Daily bump to this thread

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Blizzard store prices getting tuned before this spec does. That feels about right.

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Played 64 2s matches this week and haven’t seen a single Mistweaver other than myself :upside_down_face:

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Doing my part to bump because I wanna use kung fu.

However, does talking here even do anything? Or do we have to post in like general chat for Blizz to notice?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=carsvMI80rY

Very solid video made by one of the very few Mistweaver streamers I could find. I hope it gets some traction, along with any other Mistweaver videos that may be out there.

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Bumping again for visibility

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bump.

Revert the changes to fort brew, 15% on 3 min cd is just sad.

Could we at least get jab as a pvp talent or somethin?

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I feel like some mana tweaks would really go a long way.

Dematerialize would be fun to have back, and I think would prevent us from dying in the first 1.5 seconds of a stun. Would give your teammates more time to peel.

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Dematerialize would be pretty awesome, i think they’d have to increase the CD on it from 10s. Maybe every 30s-1min would be cool.

Everything from OP spot on.

  • MW requires more set up for reliable throughput
  • Swap targets easily to kill into a MW
  • Unless MW very simplified, no real fix
  • BFA Nerfs were delayed poison
  • The current meta is high burst
  • Absorb/immunes hi climb thanks to it
  • Loss of extreme versatility and C&S from ~8.3
  • Life Cocoon okay but single-target CD
  • Suffers from same target swap issues

If the meta shifts out of burst, Rdru and MW are again unbalanced in the opposite direction. The state of the specs and classes by themselves are fine. It’s a general GAME STATE that favors the others in Arena today - not the classes themselves.

I disagree with that - we’ll still get outlasted by any other healer if games actually start taking long.

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Riptide and earth shield still outpace in throughput and mana the hots that MW and Rdruid have.

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Bump. My MW can do M2 relatively easily at 185 I’ll, but in pvp I die nearly instantly every time. Cocoon might save me for 2 more seconds. Other CDs are garbage. Pvp is no fun as mw. Too squishy, too weak, too oom if you’re ignored, and too boring. Probably gonna switch to enhance shaman that can heal better in pvp.

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MW main through all of BfA and so far in SL. Pushed glad in bfa and have played nearly 700 total games so far this season. Currently sitting at about 207 item level, with 27% vers.

I’m a far better player now than I was in BfA, and I have never struggled so much in both PvE and ESPECIALLY PvP as a MW healer. We are such an under tuned class it’s pathetic. What do MW bring to the table that other healers don’t? We are mana inefficient, and lack utility and defensives. I personally won’t be waiting for Blizzard to address the issues present with MW. I’ll just reroll. Even if MW got a 25% decrease in mana cost of spells, it wouldn’t fix the underlying identity issues plaguing the spec. The first thing that comes to mind is the removal of /cancelaura roll. Why would they take that out? No thanks

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Bumping this. Happy holidays all.

I just got done with my 5th bg, and… yea it is NOT fun. I used to love this healer. It was mobile, which I liked. Now, it’s instadeath. I can’t survive ANYTHING. SUB rogue just killed me within a cheapshot. I’m at 176 ilvl, all pvp gear, and I’m like ok… I lived for 2.3 seconds… Why would anyone at blizzard think that is fun. Live for 2 seconds, then die, wait 30 seconds for rez, and repeat. I wish I was a priest, those seems to need raid groups to kill.