Start banning WSG ghosts?

[Ultrakill-atiesh]

im not a fan of ghosting, but sometimes its the only thing to do.

the premades have really hurt the wow classic pvp experience (for the majority of players) if its the only way to discourage them and team has no chance only option is to ghost.

if players really love pvp and want a competitive game (rather than just honor per hour farm) they would support evenly matched teams.

if you dont like it, support max group ques of 5, or only premade vrs premade. something to fix WG cause its currently broken.

[Ira-earthfury]

Adapperry, the mage that thinks queueing from Darnassus makes him safe. That bounty on your head was delicious.

[Centrix-pagle]

Rekt gg no re

[Mayatau-rattlegore]

@Glinda-azuresong

You just come to the forums to discount other’s lived experience?

Only when they make it up. Should be easy enough to prove it’s happening all the time if it’s actually happening all the time right? When I start playing wsg again next week, I can dump a whole ton of Pug vs Premade screenshots that support what I’m saying.

@Urdaddy-myzrael

You are a troll and your opinion is of zero value to me.

That’s fine, I don’t really care what a selfish liar thinks of me, but I’m still going to call you out for everyone else to see.

@Hawne-blaumeux

Yes, it’s better for both sides if you’re up against a team with 8-9 Field Marshals (Warlords) and they can just run the flag quickly 3 times while the pug side just ghosts out…

No it’s not. You don’t have to fight if you don’t want to but even if you just afk spawn at GY, it will be better than ghosting.

[Sokajoo-rattlegore]

@Mayatau-rattlegore

You don’t have to play for the flag, but you should still PLAY.

TL/DR you are playing a game that you have zero chance of winning, but shame on you if you choose not to play.

[Glinda-azuresong]

@Mayatau-rattlegore

Only when they make it up.

lol

[Mayatau-rattlegore]

@Mayatau-rattlegore

You don’t have to fight if you don’t want to but even if you just afk spawn at GY, it will be better than ghosting.

I get that people don’t want to get gang-banged at the gy for 5 minutes because it makes them feel bad, but ghosting isn’t the answer.

[Sokajoo-rattlegore]

@Mayatau-rattlegore

I get that people don’t want to get gang-banged at the gy for 5 minutes because it makes them feel bad, but ghosting isn’t the answer.

Correct. The answer is don’t join WSG until blizzard fixes it.

[Ziryus-doomhammer (Ziryus)]

@Mayatau-rattlegore

@Mayatau-rattlegore

You don’t have to fight if you don’t want to but even if you just afk spawn at GY, it will be better than ghosting.

I get that people don’t want to get gang-banged at the gy for 5 minutes because it makes them feel bad, but ghosting isn’t the answer.

Sure it is.

Until Blizzard fixes premades fighting pugs there is no reason to reward premades by giving them HK’s.

[Ira-earthfury]

@Mayatau-rattlegore

ghosting removes your chance of getting any HKs

If you’re in a pug against a premade, you’re not getting any kills. You’ve just feeding the premade farm. I’ll pass.

[Mayatau-rattlegore]

@Sokajoo-rattlegore

blizzard fixes it.

@Ziryus-doomhammer

Until Blizzard fixes

There is nothing for blizzard to fix here. Work to better yourself and your community instead of begging for change. I’m here telling you how to make a difference in the game and you’re here plugging your ears to it asking for change.

@Ira-earthfury

If you’re in a pug against a premade, you’re not getting any kills. You’ve just feeding the premade farm. I’ll pass.

ok shaman

[Hawne-blaumeux]

Naw, I’m just doing WSG pugging for the rep, so the matches going faster in a premade stomp is better for me.

Absolutely no reason for me to keep rezzing in a premade stomp.

[Eladol-bigglesworth]

Doesn’t happen all the time because most people aren’t stupid enough to res and feed hks.

Would happen a lot otherwise.

[Ira-earthfury]

@Mayatau-rattlegore

ok shaman

Yeah, I know. Wouldn’t you love getting that windfury?

[Ziryus-doomhammer (Ziryus)]

@Mayatau-rattlegore

There is nothing for blizzard to fix here. Work to better yourself and your community instead of begging for change. I’m here telling you how to make a difference in the game and you’re here plugging your ears to it asking for change.

Sure there is something for blizzard to fix, they can fix the matching system to not match premades vs pugs.

No other match making system in the blizzard pantheon allows that junk including WC3 which predates WoW.

[Mayatau-rattlegore]

More honor premades get = Less they queue = faster rep gains for you because you get more pug v pug

@Eladol-bigglesworth

Doesn’t happen all the time because most people aren’t stupid enough to res and feed hks.

Would happen a lot otherwise.

No, it wouldn’t. The amount of time it takes to cap flags is enough time to farm the HKs to the point the DRs are worth it. Like I said, worst case they have a slower person run the flag and you drag a game out a minute or two longer, but overall cut the number of premade vs pug games in half.

@Ira-earthfury

Yeah, I know. Wouldn’t you love getting that windfury?

Let me just hold it. Just for a second, come on it can’t hurt anything right?

@Ziryus-doomhammer

Sure there is something for blizzard to fix, they can fix the matching system to not match premades vs pugs.

‘Fix’ this and destroy something else. No stop being short-sighted and selfish.

[Ira-earthfury]

@Mayatau-rattlegore

Let me just hold it. Just for a second, come on it can’t hurt anything right?

okey

[Hawne-blaumeux]

You really think that 10 players rezzing can take out 8-9 players that have perfect positioning, are fully buffed, have battle standard, frost traps, and are ready to nova/nuke, etc.

I have seen many games where a pug nearly fully rezzes against a premade and just gets completely rolled with 0 kills. You basically end up stunned/slowed right where you rezzed and then you’re just killed in a couple seconds.

It’s way too hard to overcome a fully buffed team with the battle standard and positioning (healers/range away from the action, rogues/melee right on the spot), etc.

[Ziryus-doomhammer (Ziryus)]

@Mayatau-rattlegore

‘Fix’ this and destroy something else. No stop being short-sighted and selfish.

Except premades not fighting pugs is not short sighted.

It’s the way matching making system have worked for decades, including WC3.

[Pitchatent-benediction]

Some people enjoy stomping pugs over and over and over. Seems dumb to me.