Where would you rank Spriest strictly off damage in mythic+? S? A? B? Turbo booty?
We are turbo booty in M+ arguably the worst spec next to Aug right now.
People who say otherwise do not play the top end content or don’t look at logs. Our top damage logs in M+ are the bottom worst logs of UHDK. You can look at my logs and see I have the top 300 parses across all 14 keys timed and am 1M overall or more below other specs not even 99 parsing.
It feels like we are just a long for the ride in mythics doing what we can but really any other spec can do it better than us and we are invited because people feel bad. “How is sp this season? Haven’t really seen any” is a common line I get.
We also sim one of the lowest for ST in raid somehow. We are bottom 3 on the new raid boss DPS charts. Better buff Ret.
We already are Blizzards unwanted child getting kicked into the closet after 4 patches of nothing. They nerfed us based on being brought to early raids when people didn’t even have tier and we still were using spymasters web. If we don’t see change it just confirms blizzards hate towards us.
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Surely they’ll have to buff us back up, right? Right?!.
I think the nerfs they did earlier was to hastily, also providing a 2nd charge of Shadow Crash and maybe removing the cap would definitely help in M+ to a degree. Maybe aswell remove the travel time or simply swap out Shadow Crash for Dark Void and allowing it to apply VT with Whispering Shadows.
Maybe bring back Psychic Link back up to how it was once before?.
ST they could definitely buff up Mind Flay/Spike and insanity versions and Devouring Plague.
It’s crazy to see Shadow and Aug neck and neck in M+.
They nerfed us right at the start of the season because there was 1 shadow priest in the world first gallywix kill. They have buffed basically every other class since without even looking at shadow.
There’s only 2 fights in the raid shadow does well on. 3 if you count cauldron, but that requires you to straight up ignore mechanics to do well.
Shadow is trash tier worthless for M+.
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I sort of noticed every time Shadow does well and competitive it gets nerfed to the ground, not like a slight nerf, it’s always more than what’s needed.
But then when they perform so low it seems to take forever to receive any type of reasonable buff to happen.
Like I constantly get Deja vu playing Shadow.
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All these changes have been asked by us… countless times, blizzard just ignores us and doesn’t balance our class.
A complete support spec like aug should never be neck and neck with a full dps spec like us, we bring nothing besides MD, a sh!t kick, and an aoe fear you need to position yourself well to use with no mobility.
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100% agree, I think it’s crazy how things are left how they are.
Are we just ignoring the entirety of Dragonflight on this one?
But yes shadow is cheeks in keys rn, raid it’s “fine” but the nerf hurt a lot and most things have been buffed past us. Hopefully they do something about it.
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Just like in IRL you always hold onto the bad past memories and the present 
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S2 was bonkers but we got beaten up by Blizz for the beginning of S3 quite a bit.
I would also argue that in S2 our utility (PI for the mage and short CD Mass Dispel) made us strong and part of the meta. Our damage was not bad but it was not something that was extraordinary or would have guaranteed us a spot per se.
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Shadow did the most DPS of any spec in m+ in seasons 2-4 (Besides that awful hammering we got at the start of S1) by miles. SPs were literally doubling mages in the tgp and reaching highs in large pulls nobody else could dream of because of how the spec’s target scaling works when apparitions are strong and the fact you could manually exceed most spec’s target caps with VT spam in large pulls.
Okay, I trust your insight, I only have fading memories about SP being a bit behind. Thanks for the correction!
Shadow’s conundrum right now is the more nerfs to raid and more gear(looking at you turbo boost), the worse and more unneeded the spec will be in raid.
It was really funny seeing shadow do less damage than tanks until they got a month of weekly buffs for the 3rd or 4th time in the last few years.
Spec went through the same exact loop every tier. Mid / bad start, buffed for raid, busted in keys, nerfed repeatedly after season ended.
It was frankly hilarious.
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I was super excited the first time I beat our prot warrior in damage in a mythic+ key this season. Granted, I usually heal keys and, even when I used to main shadow back in BFA I was still awful with mythic+ aoe. (Loved raids). Not sure if I ever would have been good in mythic+ as shadow but I wish I would have given it a go when it was meta to see. Played around with shadow in raid this season and I did okish sorta.
My favorite time as shadow was castle Nathria raid when I was first starting to get into raiding. The mini job of keeping in voidform(was that it then?) was super fun.
It really was. As frustrating it is how little effort Blizzard puts into priest, I can’t say I blame them. Routinely failing, whatever the reason, every time you touch it for nearly a decade has got to be demoralizing.
Haha, im sure it is, but its their own damn fault so its hard to have any sympathy for them.
Either way, how shadow worked or how powerful it was in a previous expansion is completely irrelevant. It needs a significant buff…so common sense says to buff it significantly. This isnt anything that requires more than average brainpower to figure out.
Blizzard’s problem for a long time has been creating complexity where it doesn’t need to exist. Thats why the spec is such a tangled mess to begin with. Lols.
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For sure - they did it themselves by refusing to put more than a few minutes of effort into it once per expansion despite assigning themselves the monumental task of completely dismantling Legion shadow.
They decided they were going to climb a mountain but figured being able to climb a 10’ ladder was enough experience.
Ngl I am a terrible shadow priest and it’s the least successful of my alts. Even when comparing dps in pvp there are spriest pulling off great dps and I’m floundering.
I am going to be using the rotation helper liberally after patch. And god help me, I will use the one button in delves if I have to. Just make the spriest pain go away lol