Sylvanas ensured every Forsaken citizen was evacuated prior to the Battle for Lordaeron. It is literally the first thing you do in BfA as a Horde player.
That was apparently too much to expect from Tyrande and Malfurion even though they had way more time to evacuate their population. They didn’t even ask the Draenei for help. Anduin sends his people into Lordaeron with no defense against the blight. Genn didn’t lift a finger to help when the Scourge came for Lordaeron. He also attempted to assassinate the sitting head of state of a foreign nation during a time of truce who was simply trying to find a way to prolong her people. Jaina murdered a King and Father. Baine murdered Horde soldiers doing their duty to protect Jaina “Father-killer” Proudmoore’s long-dead brother. Saurfang sent countless Horde soldiers to their deaths hoping the Alliance would win, giving up two chances to kill the enemy leader.
Westfall in Stormwind, Hillsbrad in Lordaeron, Dun Morogh in the Kingdom of Ironforge, the Pandarian Empire and the Kingdom of Suramar all went ablaze with Fel.
The burning wasn’t anywhere near as bad as Teldrassil and Tirisfal Glades aside from Felsoul Hold in the Kingdom of Suramar(and it is referred to as a Kingdom by Liadrin and the official website’s page for Allied Races) yet there was fire and burning.
Really the Legion does more damage to the Kingdoms of the Horde than it does to the Alliance(to which it is a mere annoyance unlike the Horde)…
It really seems the whole reason Lordaeron and Quel’Thalas both fell to the Scourge was because they were destined to become part of the Horde…
As someone who played the quest and know his alliance lore, dude wtf of course we tried, we recruited every mage available but there were just too many people and not enough time.
Ill let you know there was no way velen didnt knew, he was there in stormwind helping the refugees when sylvanas started her crapper.
This is from wc3 what does it have to do with bfa?
Nice way of saying pissing off odyn so we could all die a firey death, i will not argue this point further we wont get anything from it.
He killed himself with loa juice when we only wanted him to surrender, dont do drugs.
Huh? why is baine here, are you listing the things you dont like about bfa?
Killing Malfurion wasnt part of the plan he was played by sylvanas, he wanted to suicide after teldrassil, same with anduin he had his reasons even if they were terrible.
Are you numbering the things you dont like of bfa?
If you arent trolling i suggest to inform you better so you can have clearer opinions on the topic because there are some bias that are plaguing them.
In terms of the story, you only need ‘attempted to assassinate the sitting head of state of a foreign nation during a truce’. Genn had no knowledge of what Sylvanas was planning, only that she ‘wanted something in Stormheim’ which could* have just as easily been the Aegis.
EDIT: missed a word there
Wrong. The Captain’s log you take to Genn says, " … teresting to be certain. The queen is going to steal the very power of the v… or herself!"
That doesn’t sound like she is going to get the Aegis, even if she was she intended to use it for herself and not to stop the Legion, so Genn did nothing wrong attacking her.
Yes, he did nothing wrong in an act, that if successful, would have lead to a Legion victory with no organised Horde, as Sylvanas would be in no position to name a successor.
i mean genn was successful in stopping sylvanas from enslaving eyir. and the legion still lost.
also why would we need a organised horde? most of the work was done by neutral class orders and the draenei. sylvanas only shows up in stormheim and then disappears for the rest of the expansion, very little would change if she was never there
He was trying to kill her, the val’kyr stopping came later. If Genn had it his way, she would have been on one of the ships and dead before any of the events in Stormheim actually happen. We all know an assassination of the Warchief would have led to the Horde swinging right back at the Alliance, and then we would have basiaclly bfa, but the Legion are doing stuff the entire time as well.
and that would be a problem? the factions didnt do a whole lot in legion, the most we saw from them was stormheim with worgen and forsaken, and the insurrection in which the entire night elf and blood elf army was frozen in time to begin with.
most of the work was done by neutral third parties and draenei. even if the factions went to war over sylvanas dying, the draenei and the class orders would have still done their job and win the war.
honestly the factions didnt even need to be there, they were just in the background
Alright, nice cut and clean example. Suramar. Gul’dan was right on the edge of smashing Space Satan into Illidans body as we got there, down to the wire. No organized Horde means the sin’dorei coming to Suramar is either not a thing, or delayed, no sin’dorei to help with the attack means even if Dalaran and the night elves managed to break through Surumar, keeping in mind the back door option only came up AFTER the armies got stopped, they take more time. More time, means Gul’dan does his spooky work, means it’s game over.
last i checked the blood elves were not there under sylvanas’s orders. they were there because of khadgar, no organized horde would be needed for the blood elves to assist. sylvanas had no hand in that conflict
Come on man, the position that is the complete military authority, with the woman who goes nuts over having control in things, didn’t give the okay for a massive chunk of HER military to move out.
COMPLETION "Excellent. The puzzle is finally coming together.
We may not know why Sylvanas’ forces are here, but I think I know where they are."
This is followed up shortly by Lorna’s shock when she figures out what Sylvanas is after from the shields.
“Its obvious at this point that the Horde wants something in Skold-Ashil. Unfortunately we still don’t know what they’re after.”
The Alliance had no idea what Sylvanas was after till literally the end of the zone.
Maybe. Considering Liadrin would have died on the Broken Shore and the Horde likely would have been struggling to hold itself together, it is hard to predict if the BE’s would have been in a position to send forces.
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