A friend of mine shared this quest and i don’t think this is going to go well for some Horde players:
According to my friend, we’ll see that the spirits took rocks from Garrosh’s grave and what we collect for Gamon are those pieces.
It’s not us taking the rocks directly from Garrosh grave.
Here two exemple of spirits:
Packleader Kargora: “I followed his orders with honor and pride, i had known how far he would take us from glory… I would have fled further than i threw that rock. May his spirit know no peace”
Another orc : “Each rock we take is penance for the honor he stole from our clan. May his legacy crumble with his corpse.”
On a side note, it happens on AU Draenor. I don’t think that i need to explain why it’s a big problem.
It feels like a petty vengeance from a writer who hate Garrosh, forgetting that there is a series of quests to recruit the Mag’har and that some Horde players still like Garrosh. It’s also a given that there’re orc spirits supporting Garrosh who should be there to defend the grave but none of them are present.
I am neutral on that matter but just the fact it happens on AU Draenor is sufficient justification for requesting the removal of this quest.
The AU Draenor plot holes keep coming. And they’ll keep coming unless people do what you’re doing now.
I agree with you completely. Sadly, this isn’t the first time WoW writers have used WoW as a vehicle for their personal views or issues.
Warcraft lore is a prime example of “too many cooks spoil the broth”. And I’m getting tired of it.
Why care about Warcraft lore when your favorite character’s accomplishments, nature or even victories (I’m talking in general, not about Garrosh) are a retcon away?
That quest certainly has me puzzled, as obvious and simple (and likely true) as it is to just write it off as the author not having any knowledge on TWO Draenors and Garrosh and the Maghar recruitment my curiosity is morbidly and insatiably piqued.
If the above is true why was this person given the Garrosh storyline to write in the first place? Also during the quest spirits from both WoDraenor and Outland show up, plus new orcs we haven’t seen before. And Garrosh’s corpse is in pristine condition despite the years passing (even in our time its been years) and being exposed to the elements (pun not intended).
Which raises further questions. Is this bad writing, or are the alternate realities and timeways merging in certain aspects?
Curious, but if so i wish it was explained more as such, as is, yeah, it’s bad writing.
Reminder: This is also part of a series of Arcantina quests that has the player go out and visit Wrath-era Icecrown Citdael, BC-era Hellfire Pennisula, shows that the Dark Horde is still a thing in the Burning Steppes, has the Iron Horde still around in the Blasted Lands, so on and so forth.
At some point, people just need to turn their brain off and say that the writers don’t care about continuity, or a logical sense of “natural in-universe” continuity, and just want to write something that looks cool to them
The Maghar recruitment scenario raised a LOT of questions that still haven’t really been answered (understatement).
Chronicles 4 (which i have a lot of issues with), completely retcons the bronze dragon’s involvement (makes sense) and instead it’s the Nighborne time mages that get us there and back.
Ah okay. I read all the others years ago. And I’m still surprised they released a 4th covering the events that supposedly make those books “in-universe” perspectives. There is irony in there somewhere.
I could have sworn that there was dialogue somewhere out in the world where it was already stated to have collapsed, or that without portals actively keeping a link open between it and Azeroth, the “threads” that make up the alternate reality would unravel and destroy itself. Unless I’m wrong on that.
There’s also the caveat that the Outlands were also said to be on the verge of complete ecological collapse (or that the very land itself was falling apart and becoming inhabitable due to the loss of landmass) and that the Fel Orcs had been wiped out to the man. Again I could be wrong on that as well.
WoW was always meant to be a “neat, non-canonical side project” while Blizzard worked on the theoretical Warcraft 4 rts that was planned to come out afterwards. If you were to view Blizzard’s current philosophy on its treatment of the lore and characters as being the natural evolution of that initial thought process behind WoW’s development than WoW’s current storytelling environment starts to make way more sense despite how nonsensicle it seems. (BC’s whole story was even said to be pitched as “Wouldn’t it be cool if we could have the players fight Illidan?”)
Both accounts sound right. I couldn’t remember if AU Draenor had or hadn’t collapsed because of Chronicles 4. I know Outland is supposed to be degrading.
I didn’t know that, but it makes sense given how much of a surprise the game’s success was.
Main universe draenor is falling apart and AU draenor is following the same route. AU draenor started to die a few years ago and the orcs and Draenei both blamed each other for the cause. That’s when Yrel started her light crusade against the entirety of draenor
Mostly. Then the Naaru arrived after the world started dying and told the Draenei to Lightforge everyone to stop the world dying. Some accepted, some refused, and after the latter was when Yrel began her war.