SPECULATION - Thalassian Druids!

As part of the new information datamined from Alpha Test for Midnight, there is a recent wowhead post showing models of major lore NPCs.
Among those there are many Amani Loas which include: Bear Loa, Lynx Loa, Dragonhawnk Loa and some others.
I just find it interesting that those Loas are some of the animals with deep ties to Blood Elves.
Speculation Part:
What if, after thousands of years of War, Blood Elves and Amani finally made peace and through those Loas, Thalassians get a conection for Druidsm?
Those Loas are the animals players usually suggest as druid forms for Blood Elves; Lynx for Cat Form, Dragonhawk for Flying Form, etc.
Would this be the beginning of lore justification for Blood Elf Druids?

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If the Blood Elves wanted druids, it be as simple as asking the Tauren to teach them druidism.


so I do not think its a lack of means, it is a cultural disconnect with the sort of mindset that produces druids. Sin’dorei shape the natural world to their whim, it serves them—They do not serve it.

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Funny how easy that is to fix.

Only if you believe that cultures are pillars and all are bound to them unable to be anything except what their people approve of.


To be clear, I’m firmly in the camp of; I don’t care if their parents wouldn’t have ever been a shaman or druid, there’s no good reason any individual couldn’t choose to walk that path.

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It’s hard to know. Blizz did seem to be doing the all races can play any class up until the ones that require extra assets. They could be working on that slowly, or it could be nothing.

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We know by now Blizzard loves convoluted lore so something as simple as: “Hey! Mr. Tauren! Could you teach me how to turn into a cat?”, is not their MO.
I just find it curious that those Loas are the exact same animal suggestion people have made over the years for their druid forms.

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I think they’re coming. That “kill High Botanist Freywinn” quest in the presentation’s slides on void elf DHs struck me as cheekily foreshadowing the parity.

Also, the Farstriders get some nature focus in Eversong’s zone stories, with the appearance of wild gods strange nature spirits in response to the rangers healing the land. And as you say, these specific loa are thematically perfect representations of their potential druid forms


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The Sindorei working with the Amani to cleanse Quelthalas and learning Druidism from them would be great. Much better than if they learned from the Tauren or Night Elves.

It would keep them tied to their homeland and their native loa. Also tie them to their ancient troll heritage. While still keeping them with their own style different from the Elves who exiled them.

Sounds great. Sign me up.

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They can still learn from other Druid Races. Experience should be used to your advantage but at least they can say they became Druids on their own which would be neat for them, wouldn’t break any established lore.
Farstriders would be the best choice to follow that path.

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I think the tit-for-tat druidism that Trolls have is more aligned with Belf ideologies

Especially if it’s a sub-group of Farstriders who already love the animals they care for; to be blessed by the God of Lynxes would be cool to Halduron I’d wager

His new outfit is indeed very green


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The restoration of what used to be the Ghostlands and the Scarred Path does make a logical entry for Sindorei Druids.

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Actually they could have been jusified as far back as the Burning Crusade and Legion.

I’m genuinely surprised, I thought you of all people would be the one who was going to be the utmost adamantly against all of it :joy:

If trolls get a ‘toggle’ – option for the Amani models in the barber shop, it’d be cool to see selecting such, thus grant them those forms as their base druid models too. :slight_smile:

:thinking: Ideally, you could argue this as one of the key-pillars towards the Amani and the Thalassians having formed a treaty over the years → Through the gods & loa of both Quel’Thalas and the Amani Forests, followed by the leadership of Quel’Thalas also wanting peace, combined with Talanji seeking such on behalf of the Amani too - To tie it altogether.


 Sadly however, I’m sure the reality of their peace is far more lazy than that, lol :joy: But hey, maybe we’ll be surprised with later lore-reveals yet to come or be written :grin:

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Let’s remove night elf Warlock then.

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Also mages
 and probably traditional warriors as well, just doesn’t feel like a proper sentinel.

Oh
 we should totally reduce the classes races can be down to only those that speak to their stereotypical cultural beats so everyone can just go, “oh I’ll be the mage race!” then boom! No thinking no questioning
 it’s just a world of hats.


Of course these days I find arguments that boil down to “The LORE! Won’t someone think of the LORE?” to be so tiring and I’m just done with it.

I used to try to come up with good in lore arguments for why a class exists, or at least could, and isn’t widely known, but the other side just screams it down, so done. Why play nice with people who just scream in your face how wrong you are for wanting something they don’t?

Don’t like LFD Warlocks
 don’t make one.
Don’t like Blood Elf Druids or Shaman
 shock
 don’t make one.
I know it’s hard to imagine but not all choices in the game are for just those who like everything. I’ll never make a priest and I’ll never make another paladin beyond the one I have an RP for and if paladin vanished tomorrow I wouldn’t miss it. I’m not going to tell someone they can’t play those classes, so why should I tell them what race they are allowed to be when they play those classes? What is everyone so bloody afraid of? Because this level of push back feels like the kind of hate I’m all too familiar with in America the kind born of fear.

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Maaaaan I was expecting something hotter than this.

Why not Thalassian LIGHT Druids? Flight form being like the shiny gold light dragonhawk on the midnight pre-order.

The mere thought of seeing Blood elves druids disgusts me but I would welcome them through their Farstriders connecting to the Emerald Dream via Wild Gods, but to have The Light corrupt my beloved sacred Nature Class would be a low blow.

And I’ve said plenty of time that The Light has taken so much of Blood Elves’ spotlight at the expense of their Mages and Farstriders.

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Wasnt there some sort of Botanist Boss in Tempest Keep?

Also, it wouldnt be such a far throw for Blood Elves to adopt Druidism, especially with the Lightbloom and what not. They could see it as a necessary step to contain the damage the Sunwell has caused. Could just call them “Wardens” as their racial equivalent.

We do need more focus on the Arcane and Mundane aspects of Thalassian culture, however. Blood Elf connection to the light is currently the be all end all of their schitck now to the point it makes Human culture seem secular.

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Justice for Farstriders!

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So i’m pretty sure blood elf druids were planned but got scrapped last minute in BC. I think that’s also why why the amani had dragonhawk loas.

I would like to see them though because the lore supports them and i think it’s a good class combo for the race.

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This should be a whole narrative point of “they’re too proud to embrace nature in an equal capacity.” Same reason why, back in Vanilla, Zandalari said they didn’t possess Druidism, because they do not view themselves as equals to nature, they view themselves as it’s superior.

Thalassian druids, as a narrative concept, should reflect that cultural mentality and that their relationship to nature is binding it to their service, not mutual harmony like druidism kind of entails (harmony not as in nothing kills each other, mind you, before people misunderstand that).

The dungeon entry for the Satyr boss implies they actually get all the magic they use by having Satyr manipulate and steal life essence from the plants for them. So arguably something closer to how belves used M’uru, except they werent extracting the energy themselves. Explicitly, by sacrificing living creatures. In a controlled environment as well, which is notable cause wild nature isn’t like a greenhouse, and even the titans seemingly cant fully order nature since even modern lore acknowledges the dream doesn’t even possess order concepts like Time.

The botanist in Arcatraz works as a starting point, not as full on druids on it’s own, cause they got it from demons.

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