Specs balance in M+ (high keys)

Of course, as you say, I will now check the history of 150 thousand paladin characters, yeah.

Yes, it is obvious again that a small part of them, about 10-15% (the numbers are not accurate and there is no accurate analysis of the facts), in my opinion, are not defectors, this is clear.

Once again, my complaint is not specifically about your favorite spec, I’m not happy that my favorite spec has been at the bottom for 2 months already.

Who told you to check everyone. If you are going to call someone out, in individual, then you should at least do the bare minimum before making such a careless accusation.

You are making up numbers to confirm your bias.

And how do you suppose this can be solved? It boots another spec to the bottom if any changes are made.

Plus, some specs aren’t that far behind, but because there’s another option, everyone flocks to it, giving it a skewed prespective.

This raid tier is the first one where dev/aug has seen parity… or I should say Dev outperformed aug.

Neither you nor I can say anything for sure, but it is obvious that there are an abnormally large number of paladins. I see that you are just interested in arguing, I am not interested in that, sorry.

There are unique spells in each spec, spells that affect damage, these numbers can be adjusted based on logs, everything is very simple.

Friend, are you happy with everything? Do you think the game is currently balanced in terms of M+ dungeons? IS there any character you are currently playing in the current M+ content?

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Currently playing pres evoker, timing like one +12 per week.

But something else will be say 1% ahead, and everyone flocks there.

Want pres and dev representation? Delete aug.

So let at least the conditions be equal for the majority, I don’t mind if someone is ahead even by 10%, please, I’m not asking for everyone to be absolutely equal, it’s clear that this is impossible. It’s just necessary to strengthen the outsider specs a little, at least once every 2 weeks.

Now you’re being disingenuous, all a Dev needs in Mythic + high keys atm is a maximum Pyre boost, and maybe a couple of spec spells that deal AOE damage, this will not affect the other two specializations of this class in any way.

I haven’t made up any numbers. You are the only one that did. So yes, I can say for sure that you are making up numbers to confirm your bias.

Lmao, you of all should not be calling anyone disingenuous.

Boo hoo, either roll with it or reroll. Ret was bottom for an entire expansion in SL. Someone will always be at the bottom, that’s just how it is.

Even with that, people will flock to aug because aug is seen as better. (Seen.)

Like look at Liquid vs Echo.

Echo used aug, lost the RWF.

So what? An aura buff of say 3% per 2 weeks until they get out of representation hell?

But dev competes with aug for spots. So not only is a group buff missing, but the one evoker provides is inferior.

So only way dev really sees play is with tryhard dev people or if it’s really overpowered. Aug is also seen as easy.

Yes, indeed, you just point your finger randomly, very subjectively, no analysis, no facts, just your reasoning.

As you say.

Yes, that is their right. The main thing is that it should not look forced as it does now.

No, I pointed my fingers with cause and with objectivity. The only one who made up stats and trying to defend them here is you.

Could do better with intentional elevation of some specs to the top. Some are better way too often.

idk how to make dev or pres viable though without overpowering everyone else.

Yes, and I mentioned that there could be better balancing. The issue here is the OP trying to use tier lists and putting more weight on the group comp of top runs instead of looking at the middle or even high-middle. There’s always a runaway skewing of certain classes when you look at M+ data of the .1%. It’s not a good way to look at balancing.

DF S1 was reportedly the widest meta in the history of m+.

But that’s like striking lightning for the first time ever.

It was for the middle and high-middle, but even then when you got to the .1% range we still saw a clear runaway meta comp.

Thought meta was relatively wide at .1% (vs history.) Not everyone was viable mind you.

Relatively maybe, The “Season Rating Cutoffs” on RIO are corrupted for those seasons likely because of the dungeons being reused for other seasons, but the Timed and All Run Leaderboard data is still there and accurate.

Tank for +25 and up was 56.8% Paladins and 27.5% Shaman, 29.5% Druid, 22.4% Preservation Healers.

Edit: nevermind, DF S2 Timed and All Run is very wrong. Cant look at these numbers either it seems.

Really?

Do not match.

Tier lists.

You literally looking at the top runs.

You downplaying the data presented from +8, +10, and +12 runs because it goes against your bias.

Don’t try to back pedal so hard.

Proving anything to you is a waste of time, not interested in it.

It’s as if I’m trying to communicate with the wall.

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Honestly, people don’t want Aug nearly as much any more in my experience. I mained it for 3 seasons, and in DF would easily get invites out of 50 other applicants. Easily. This season, it’s often outright declines for me. The invites don’t come nearly as quickly. To be honest, I don’t feel like it’s contributing as much (broken) any more. I’m having fun with a survival hunter alt instead.

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