Ok but we are going for the nostalgia experience (as best they can recreate it) so to balance them hard now would have them here upset with being nerfed to death? Instead we have the Pally class upset they can only beat Fury/Arms. That’s my class and I’m not mad?
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Just no. They have made so many changes to this game it’s not a recreation. That idea has been dead since TBC.
It’s a rehost of an old game. You should know what you’re getting into.
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By any chance you didn’t play Wrath on a private server did you?
My experience with those guys is that they look at Wrath with higher expectations and less nostalgia (because they been playing it for years already).
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Kek, ret paladin tears are fantastic.
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I’m not a ret paladin so that’s weird.
You are mistaking optimal and viable. Ret Paladin is more than viable.
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For utility sure.
Not for raw damage though.
I’d go as far as to say they CAN perform very well? Just maybe not as good as the other class when masters are measured?
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Go look at the logs please. You’ll realize that I’ve told you this is completely wrong multiple times now.
A 75% Unholy DK is not a master.
I’ll take your word for it… I’m not here to start a fight. Mostly playing Devils advocate. I’ve never played Ret so I can’t relate to your pain…
https://classic.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/1015
That little pink dot all by itself for the Ret paladin line is the top of the top Ret Paladins.
Move your finger up from there and see where they fall in line with other Damage specs.
Yea… well that’s too bad I guess? Did you try showing this to the Devs? Oh wait yes… yes you did. Then like God they spoke…
Called it as GOOD… then closed up the thread? It’s sucks for Ret now sure. But at least you guys have that sick extra damage to undead?
No they did not. You did not play Wrath launch or you are disingenuous or a liar. Rets received nerfs every patch but the gear kept them upper tier but not top. They were not basement trash unless you had rerolled and just hit 80 in ToC.
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Yes, that’s why I made a thread calling them incapable.
And I do just as much damage as Prot as Rets do. Again, it doesn’t bother me all that much.
Yea Prot Pally is a god… I’d just roll a tank if I was a Pally? You get all the gear and everyone needs a tank. Last thing anyone wants is ANOTHER plate DPS…
I’m just gonna start copy/pasting things I’ve said.
The pink dot that is higher than all the warrior dots, frost mage, sub rogue, and within a few % of shadow priests and feral Druids?
Yet the only spec on the forums crying is Ret?
Shadow also only had 1 dps spec.
Feral is the only melee dps spec of its class.
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Warriors scale better with gear. The ilvl increase to Ulduar is a buff for them in terms of competitive DPS. Same with mages and Ferals. Spriest might be in the dark though.
Rogues already have two top Stier dps specs. You’re missing the main point that Paladins don’t have a DPS spec thats viable.
Ret is balanced around a tier set that doesn’t exist until the end. If you don’t understand why that doesn’t make sense for the other 3 tiers in the game I can’t help you there.
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Yeah bro tons of spam for raid tanks. Another person that’s either disingenuous or a liar. Oh I am sure you meant for 5 mans I get you didn’t add in for what content.