11/03/2018 05:40 PMPosted by
Bawky Wait ... people don't want to pay a subscription for two games for one fee? Is this real life?
You don't even have to play the modern game if you don't want. Don't ruin it for us who want to play and enjoy both games. I'm not burning another $15 on a subscription fee for Classic.
Yes this is real life.
You're missing the entire point. I'm not saying people who want both should have to pay 2 subs. I'm saying I would like an option where I can pay exclusively for Classic and Classic only. Just because something is "Free" doesn't mean people want it bundled in with what they're getting.
11/03/2018 05:46 PMPosted by
Burlyqt And where are you getting that? I see no requirements about BFA at all. You don't need BFA to play wow retail.
You're either trolling, or the thickest person I've encountered on this forum. What's the point of playing retail if you're not getting into end-game content? I guess if you enjoy... twinking? or mount-collecting? Yikes.
I mean there's six expansions of content to go through without buying a new expansion. Vanilla, BC, WotLK, Cata, MoP and WoD. You don't have to be max level to enjoy a game.
Jesus, people find everything to complain about. I understand you're not happy about live but, there are still ways to enjoy both games & get the full value of your monthly subscription if you so desire.
11/03/2018 12:28 PMPosted by
Crumbs One sub gives you access to two games? What a terrible company!
No the problem is, 1 sub gives you access to 2 types of communities. /Shudder
Yeah, access, and if you don't want to go to one, you don't have to.
11/03/2018 05:40 PMPosted by
Bawky Wait ... people don't want to pay a subscription for two games for one fee? Is this real life?
You don't even have to play the modern game if you don't want. Don't ruin it for us who want to play and enjoy both games. I'm not burning another $15 on a subscription fee for Classic.
Yes this is real life.
You're missing the entire point. I'm not saying people who want both should have to pay 2 subs. I'm saying I would like an option where I can pay exclusively for Classic and Classic only. Just because something is "Free" doesn't mean people want it bundled in with what they're getting.
Except you would still be charged the same exact $15 per month that everyone else is charged. What point am I missing here? The fact that you want nothing to do with the live version of the game? You don't have to hit the download button. The files never have to be on your computer. Blizzard is not forcing you to play live.
The money you pay for your subscription fee will go back into the company as a whole. So even if you hate WoW live, Hearthstone, Diablo or any other game Blizzard develops -- by paying a subscription fee, you are supporting the development of all Blizzard titles.
11/03/2018 03:05 PMPosted by
Yazziña One sub gives you access to two games? What a terrible company!
Being forced to buy a sub for a game you dont wanna play ... Its cool that retail get it for free but it should be an option to play it without paying full for retail game.
Where is the money going if you buy the sub seperately? Oh yeah, Blizz, and Retail by extension.
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There is an option for classic only, by you simply not playing live.. Its called self control, learn it and utilize it. Blizzard shouldn't have to hold your hand.
Yes and then Blizzard gets to go "Look at how many active subs we have." and can't/won't tell the difference in accounts that only play classic and only play live, aka artificially padding their sub numbers.
What in the flying heck does this matter? If the company goes down, which seems to be the underlying hope in these sub separators, then Classic goes with it.
One sub, WoW players regardless of version they play, under 1 umbrella. Healthy for all.
I'll play both so i'm fine with it. My concentration will be on Classic though, but when i want to go farm achievements and mounts etc i'll hop on BFA.
They're basically 2 different games and stating I want to have the option to pay for one that doesn't come with the option for the other one included is not complaining.
Not really. It's 2 different versions, of the same Game. Yes, a lot has changed, and I concur their differences. HOWEVER they're BOTH an embodiment of WoW. You are complaining 'cause how dare BFA be tied with Classic. Get over yourself.
11/03/2018 05:40 PMPosted by
Bawky Wait ... people don't want to pay a subscription for two games for one fee? Is this real life?
You don't even have to play the modern game if you don't want. Don't ruin it for us who want to play and enjoy both games. I'm not burning another $15 on a subscription fee for Classic.
Yes this is real life.
You're missing the entire point. I'm not saying people who want both should have to pay 2 subs. I'm saying I would like an option where I can pay exclusively for Classic and Classic only. Just because something is "Free" doesn't mean people want it bundled in with what they're getting.
The money will go straight to retail in the end with the solution you propose, so why ask for it?
11/03/2018 05:40 PMPosted by
Bawky Wait ... people don't want to pay a subscription for two games for one fee? Is this real life?
You don't even have to play the modern game if you don't want. Don't ruin it for us who want to play and enjoy both games. I'm not burning another $15 on a subscription fee for Classic.
Yes this is real life.
You're missing the entire point. I'm not saying people who want both should have to pay 2 subs. I'm saying I would like an option where I can pay exclusively for Classic and Classic only. Just because something is "Free" doesn't mean people want it bundled in with what they're getting.
Ah, a purist. I work for one of the big 'digital entertainment' providers, and this is always a subset of people that the industry has to contend with. People that dont want any bonus material added to movies, TV shows, games etc. They want a 'pure' catalog. Theatrical titles, the core version of whatever content they touch.
Metrics however prove you are a very tiny minority of people. You cant constrict content like that. It's an obsessive mindset, and is useless to cater to. Since most have the self control to just ignore options they dont want to touch, but want the option anyways.
Makes more sense to have a one sub option that covers all things WoW. Literally no reason to confuse consumers with different game subscription options to avoid hurt feefees of fanboys.
As far as I'm concerned we got the best deal. I'm shocked blizzard decided to include this as a game service, fully expected some extra cash payment crud.
I like your name Epicac, I like it so much, I wanna throw up. :P
I like your name Epicac, I like it so much, I wanna throw up. :P
Ipecac, Epicac, close enough. :D
11/03/2018 06:30 PMPosted by
Epicac I like your name Epicac, I like it so much, I wanna throw up. :P
Ipecac, Epicac, close enough. :D
pretty clever honestly, im not quick enough with the naming conventions,lol
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Yes this is real life.
You're missing the entire point. I'm not saying people who want both should have to pay 2 subs. I'm saying I would like an option where I can pay exclusively for Classic and Classic only. Just because something is "Free" doesn't mean people want it bundled in with what they're getting.
The money will go straight to retail in the end with the solution you propose, so why ask for it?
If Classic were a separate game profits would go to Acti-Blizz, then go to corporate profits or redirected to other properties and possible new game development based on their potential.
If Classic is the same, profits still go to Acti-Blizz, then go to corporate profits or redirected, but now the WoW team can say they're doing well because the sub numbers look better and people are logging into BfA for their daily free gold mechanic making BfA DAU look good and explaining to the higher up why they should keep the cash flowing back to the WoW team.
I think setting sales records and crashing online stores tells them they are doing just fine.
Does anyone else not want to have the sub for Classic tied to live? I mean if I have to pay a sub for classic then I pay a sub. That being said I don't want to subsidize retail and I certainly don't want Blizzard using Classic Subs to artificially pad their sub numbers for live.
I dont have a problem with the subs be linked. To me BFA is dead and it cant be saved but I am really hopeful that the current WoW devs will figure how to make a good MMORPG again and we will see a much better game with the next expansion.
why you are required to have BFA to enjoy the game.
That's not even an argument I meant to make originally. To me being able to enjoy both games means having access to end-game in retail. Yes, technically you can play both without having BfA. Congratulations, you won an argument nobody was having, in a completely unrelated thread. I hope you feel better.
11/03/2018 06:43 PMPosted by
Burlyqt That's not even an argument I meant to make originally. To me being able to enjoy both games means having access to end-game in retail. Yes, technically you can play both without having BfA. Congratulations, you won an argument nobody was having, in a completely unrelated thread. I hope you feel better.
But it was the one you was pushing.
my concern is we're going to get a bunch of people who are going to try out Classic coming from Live.
they are going to see how different the game is, and come to the forums asking for changes.
Because they will be the only people that ask for changes, since asking for changed only started in the last 2 years and no one ever did back in vanilla?
You guys need to let go of your irrational fear that Retail players are just waiting around salivating at the thought of "what can I do to ruin it",
They think this way because that's how
they would behave.