You play ret in PvP, you aren’t bringing snacks and bevs you are the snack. Just another fry in the bag of honor crispy snacks to be devoured by enhance.
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That was me. Alliance are just bad is all.
I bet being immortal feels nice. Hero class after all. Died to a single ret yet?
still is lol
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Kill his pet in 2 globals, they forgot to add both the health buff and DR to pets.
What kind of spec are you running? I’m convinced you’re using a PvE spec in PvP.
But also this is 1 pretty much a live beta and 2 this weekend is just PvP test to see how a flat DR would work.
I’m amazed how many players complain but don’t understand this is pretty much just a live play test
maybe you should start using abilities other then smashing your face onto the 1 button rotation macro
-i cant beat anyone 1v1
-also i dont use any of my myriad of support spells
Maybe you should stop assuming what I use and don’t use. Like i said in more detail then your random words. I’ve got no spells to use.
If there is a hunter across me. I given my toolkit cannot reach him. Because he can concussion shoot me or he can stun me with a pet. Assuming I devine shield right away and he starts running nothing allows me to catch up to him. The only thing I can do is maintain speed via freeedom and by the time shield runs out. I am still no where close to him unless he stands and shoots which any sane hunter will never do.
Or he tries to use aspect of speed which again a good hunter will never do.
No i am saying all is fine. You should auto lose to a good hunter (or mage).
In classic WoW every class has very distinct strengths and weaknesses. Paladins weakness is mobility. Hunter’s strength is mobility. So unless something or someone interfer with the duel. The hunter should win, and that is by design. Your only option is to use tools outside of your class. Like swiftness potions and grenades.
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So you are saying it’s good design to have one class consistently beat the other one 100% of the time? Is that what we are saying here. Who do I beat 100% of the time?
Also have you looked at the logs hunters are Top Dps class in the game and you are saying the strength is mobility that’s interesting.
PvP should not be balanced around 1v1. I legitimately don’t know how good paladins are in PvP, because so many people play them, and they’re all likely bad. Paladin kit is very good though, especially in a 1v1. If you want to make this post, and doom reply to everyone giving you advice, you’ll probably continue to be one of the bad paladins. You have plenty of tools to use. With Pursuit and repentance, I feel like a paladin can catch up to most people. If not, speed pots are cheap. Not many classes can cover their class’ only weakness with a cheap consumable.
OMG read your own message. You have “I don’t know how good paladins are in PVP” followed by “Paladin kit is very good though, especially in a 1v1” so you don’t know but you claim it’s good 1v1. To your question take a look at my server class distribution on tavern Paladins are the least played class. So I don’t even what how to talk to you… You have contradictions followed by just assumptions that aren’t true.
Paladins are the lowest played class because all the specs are bad. There is about 900 more shamans playing then paladin.
And what sort of advice are we talking about here from a person that says I’ve got no idea how good paladins are in pvp? So you are here to give advice?
The point I was making is that paladin players are the type of people to spam cleanse themselves of R1 SWP until their mana is gone. I’m not sure how paladin plays with someone who is good at the game, because most paladin players are not.
I don’t play paladin, but I know paladin abilities, and they seem pretty solid. Try using them.
Rogues and Warriors.
Reckoning Pala absolutely smashes Rogues, they have to blow all their cooldowns and hope the Paladin don’t have PvP trinket ready, to only maybe have a chance. Regular Ret does really well against Rogues too, but it is a bit closer. Dispelling Deadly Poison absolutely wrecks their damage and if they aren’t running Deadly Brew they aren’t doing any damage in the first place.
Edit: Also does really well against Shadow priests as both SW:P and VP can be dispelled with a single cleanse.
Everyone beats warriors so i am not sure the latter counts.
If you want to have a better chance against ranged classes try Shockadin. It is vastly surperior to Ret in most matchups. Or was anyways, i have not tried it after the damage nerf aura went live.
I love the sort of communication we are having look at my post I describe specific situations and how I absolutely cannot do anything. Mean while you comin in here and just say things like “you have abilities try using them” after I’ve specifically described how and in what cases I’ve got absolutely nothing. In great detail.
I just wanna throw this idea out there have you ever imagined that all your talk about most of the paladins being bad. Is actually because our class can’t do anything? Because everyone beats it but we actually wanna fix it and come talk about it? Why do you think so many people think paladins are bad? Don’t you think for a second maybe just like maybe there is something else at play.
You said it self you dont know what is Ret like in PVP read the title of this post this is exactly what I am talking about. You have to sit and play it. Then you will understand.
Kill the hunter pet, repetance on the hunter, kill the hunter
I’ve actually had about 15 fights today world pvp with a hunter and I’ve tried multiple ways and trying to go for the pet seemed viable until you realize that. It takes him 1.5 second to resurrect the pet so by the time i kill the pet I am about at 30-40% hp and I move on to him and by the time I get there pet is up. GG WP. Lost all 15 engagements btw I did get him killed once by mob after he killed me that was about the best thing I could do.
Yeah, sounds like a player issue.
I don’t play paladin, but I would probably just wait out the Bestial Wrath (18 second duration) using Divine Shield (12 second duration). That extra six seconds would be spent with him sitting in a Repentance and/or Hammer of Justice while getting nuked with instants while I’m immune. You would also be using Repentance and Hammer of Justice as a easy way to heal yourself. If the hunter is Marksman, all you need is Seal of Justice, Blessing of Freedom and a single Swiftness Potion… once your inside his dead zone, he literally does no damage.
Wrath is 1.5 min cd → Devine Shield is 5 min cd. In fighting over farm spot. What you are suggesting. It doesn’t work in the first place I am just pretending it does. Still wont work because 3 out 1 he beats me.
I honestly do feel legit bad for Ret with this aura currently. I was dealing with one of you like a annoyance while I took on a Fire Mage. I literally just purged, slowed you, used you as a maelstrom builder to heal until I killed the mage and then killed the Ret.
I used to play Ret 20 years ago lol, I have a soft spot for the class.
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