Solo Shuffle Ruined PvP

There’s still gatekeeping. It’s just more cut and dry. Either you are a certain rating or you’re not.

Gatekeeping isn’t a bad thing.

lol

its all good no worries. he can think what he likes :slight_smile:

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Why learn from someone I am higher rated then on ladder?

Rudar? :owl:

yep that was it thanks

because his solo shuffle rating is higher than yours and you’re talking about solo shuffle sweetie.

i am no longer at the mercy of whatever youtuber says is a good pvp spec or not.

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im talking about it in the context that it ruined pvp and hurt the ladder. 2200 solo shuffle is like 1700 on the ladder.

no you’re talking about how players play in it, and he plays the mode at a higher rating sweetie, so yes, you absolutely could learn from him.

so he’s the same rating as you then :woman_shrugging:

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You never were.

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yes you were, lfg didnt invite you if you were the wrong spec. no longer the case.

sorry but the way people behaved without solo queue is the reason we have it now. and it will stay this way. if you dont like solo queue, dont play it.

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I’d sit there for an hour not getting invited on the right spec. :dracthyr_crylaugh: People could be so picky.

As someone who has played some seriously non-meta specs, I have never had any issue finding groups. Partially because I just make my own groups. If you believe they are ‘gatekeeping’ your experience, then make your own group.

If you want to play actually bad specs with bad talent choices, then enjoy the 1200 bracket. I’m not directing that specifically at you, but in the very little I have played in the lower brackets, that’s all I see. Like guardian druids and worgen warriors, and male draenei paladins. :laughing:

People like playing with what’s good because they understand it.

“ew your (non meta spec)”

leaves group

please just stop. this was the experience most of us faced. this is exactly why solo queue came into existence anyhow. people were sick of gatekeeping and waiting hours to find someone to play with. lets not change history pls.

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be careful what you wish for, never fun playing a dead game.

i opened up a LFG a couple days ago and i got maybe a couple people who signed up, and i missed the chance to accept them because i wasn’t paying attention. i was sitting in there for almost an hour.

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It can help to put a “whisper me i might be afk” in the description.

i had my background sound turned off for someone reason so i couldn’t hear the sound that it makes when someone signs up.

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i played before shuffle, i know its not fun playing a dead game :rofl:

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i been said this alot will disagree i just wish they never added it to game at all

When shuffle was still just a brawl, but we knew their intentions were to test it out for a new rated bracket, one of the things I remember calling out was the impact it might have on balancing.

There have been many seasons when turbo was the best comp in the game, but that was still the only comp you’d play with an enhancement shaman. There have been seasons when Hunter and feral both sucked in everything other than jungle, but jungle was still an s tier comp. Rmp has always been its own beast.

On the flip side, there have been seasons where classes like warlock and warrior have been very highly represented but not necessarily considered overpowered just because of the amount of comps that they could play.

Adding a ranked content type with randomized grouping in this environment invokes some inevitabilities with some of these classes/specs. Generalists are always going to look overpowered based on rep just because they have more partners to play well with. Over time, it’s always going to average out being “easier” to get a high rating in a random environment with a generalist spec.

The more niche a spec gets, the harder it gets in a random environment, so they either have to get homogenized or buffed to a point where they might be overpowered in an environment where you get to choose your comp before the game starts. Or we have to just not care that it’s harder to play them in shuffle.

I love shuffle but it’s really playing out just like that. I think at the end of the day, we really all do need to take a step back and realize that this is the first season in a really revolutionary change period. Frankly, they have done a better job than I thought they would.

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