If it happens it happens. People just need to brush it off. I don’t expect others to stop doing it too me.
Pulling mobs and getting another player killed? Not something they keep records of unless it was reported. Game logs don’t go back very far. Again though, it is a jerk move, but not something the GMs action. The only example I can think of that have stepped in is when someone pulls a big bad to a capitol city and disrupts the city (zone disruption). Being annoying by pulling mobs on someone is not against the rules.
You can feel free to ask on the CS forum though. They can clarify the rules difference between zone disruption that they take action for vs annoying/jerk behaviors like pulling mobs, corpse camping, killing quest hubs, etc.
Here’s where we disagree.
I feel people should simply not do stuff to intentionally ruin someone else’s game time and doing so intentionally is griefing and show be handled accordingly.
I still don’t see how running mobs into another players aoe or whatnot is griefing. At most its a jerk thing to do but we as adults learn to brush that stuff off. Why get mad over it is beyond me.
If you leave the scene and let them deal with it?
You don’t see that as you being a griefer?
Well, that’s why we disagree.
Do you see this happening on the internet, anywhere?
Sure, we should “just be adults”, but people rarely are.
That’s where rules come in to remind people.
Yeah that’s not griefing. That’s just being a jerk. But as I said its been done too me and I’ve done it to others.
Heck if you really wanna call something griefing then call out the ones who take max levels and spend all day corpse camping a lowbie. If anything is griefing its that.
If you leave the scene and let them deal with it?
Depends. I would say it would have to be repetitive and targeted specifically at you. Then ya I would consider it griefing. Again though, only if it’s same faction. If you’re horde and they’re alliance that’s just too bad.
And I’ll say it again: Just because “it’s happened before” is NOT a reason to just excuse it.
That’s how rules get made in the first place. Someone does something that they shouldn’t be doing and they have to make a rule to police it.
I would say it only needs to be repetitive behavior. They might only do it to you once or twice, but then the next 10 people they meet they do the same thing. And then tomorrow, the next day and every day after they do the same thing to many new people. If you limit it to only one person, they could get away with it for a very long time before they finally get some sort of punishment.
It’s both, but again, you’re expecting people to “just be adults”, and I’m a realist that knows people don’t act that way.
But again its not against the rules. If I run a mob over another player and it aggros to them and I leave the area, that’s not against the rules. Hacking however is against the rules; same as botting but thats another divisive topic in and of itself.