SoD forums remind me of the Spiderman pointing meme
Because all holy spells have the lowest damage baseline compared to elemental schools. For example, holy shock (31p of holy tree) does 220 damage and has 30 sec cd.
You can’t even imagine how opressive is frost shock + earthbind totem + purge spam is. Also covered by grounding totem you have to destroy so your important spell can go through. In classic most classes don’t have a lot of passive avoidance. Your class recieved it as an oversight. A rune that was designed for tanks is being heavily abused in pvp.
“These clowns” were talking about it and boomies got their starsurge nerf, SP no longer globals people with SW:D. They are still strong because of caster meta, but atleast manageable. It is just the shamans that are broken rn and they steal the show.
Shamans must be nerfed. They are the best at everything in the game except healing.
Best single target, 2nd best AOE, Best Overall, Best PVP, TANKs are 5th best dps in the game. It’s bananas.
I don’t care what the shaman collective has to say yall been crying for 20 years.
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I played an alliance priest. Go look it up. The only thing I was ever concerned with was WOTF because I knew how to press my dispel button.
COPE
yeah lets ignore spell power and how never having to worry about partial damage reduction is a good thing.
Yep, you played the most comfortable/on demand option for ERA premades.
I am not coping tbh. Just waiting for p3 because I have all loot from gnomer, exalted AB+WSG. And there is no reason to pug bgs for fun, obviously, because there is no fun fighting FOTM shaman rerollers that flood the bracket.
Spell power plate… so many items in ERA. Everybody was sleeping on spelladin, right? Or maybe scaling was bad too? And you ignored 220 damage with 30 SEC CD lol. No amount of spellpower could carry dog basics of paladin.
Tell me what’s comfortable about playing a priest into a 60% undead server?
Alliance is literally jam packed full of paladins shadow priests and boomies which are all broken as sh and you won’t put any of them in check because shaman ain’t your problem. You want shamans gone because it’s on the enemy team. That’s all. If you had any sense I’d see posts out of you about shadow priests, about boomies, about paladins doing full rune rotations through invinciblity with no downsides. But nah. None of that. Cause you only want shaman dead. Ain’t gonna effect you in any way but positively. Kill a class just to have an easy time in PVP. You’re clowning.
Why are you bringing up era? We’re talking about SOD abilities.
Yes, let’s. Our SP coef on our abilities is low or non existent.
Exorcism is 46%
Seal of command is 20%
Judgement of command is 29%
At the moment that’s it. That’s all of em until we get consecration (which is also low)
Crusader strike dealing holy damage? Doesn’t matter, doesn’t benefit from SP.
Seal of Martyr is all holy damage? Doesn’t matter, doesn’t benefit from SP.
Dwarf priest is the only combination that could get out of blinds, remove viper sting, has fear ward. Also the only class that has offensive dispell for Alliance. Stop pretending to be stupid.
If YOU had any, then you’d understand that most complains are about WoE. No one wants shamans to be bottom. In fact, there were suggestions to buff SR as compensation. Having 5 k, 55% phys MIT and -6% crit when most players have around 15-16 in bis gear is not ok. All of that without any damage penalties.
Were nerfed because people complained.
Pure emotions. Stop playing victim card.
SOD does not have 60 yet. And still shockadin is failure atm.
And yep, as the guy above stated, look SP coeff for vanilla paladin’s spells and stop embarassing yourself.
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Stop pretending like never getting to CC over half of the enemy faction is some sort of comfort option.
Just because you personally are only going after WoE doesn’t mean people aren’t literally calling for the class to die.
Yes they do. They call for it daily.
Where are you seeing these suggestions because I’ve been browsing and posting in every thread and haven’t seen any sort of compromise. Just people declaring everything about shaman is broken and the class needs to be destroyed. I made a thread suggesting nerfs and changes to SR/ES and it got 0 attention. Because lo and behold people only want to see the class gutted.
Sorry is shadowform a nerf? Was 10% void plague damage buff a ‘nerf’? Just because they came after one oppresive part of the class doesn’t mean they aren’t sitting at 36y vomiting out free spells and stunning people for 3s constantly while doing steady DPS. Go on and try run past a priest on mount. They dot you up and you’re dead if you don’t dismount to heal lol.
It’s not. Go read the thread. This is literally what people are saying.
Why are you pretending like coeffs are special for paladins? That’s literally how all instant cast spells work. You’re embarrassing yourself by pretending like you’re in some sort of ‘weak spot’ with your coefficients when they literally follow the same rules as EVERY other class.
All they need to do is not make Lava Burst a guaranteed crit in PVP. That would fix everything. Even 50% crit would be fine. A flame shock > lava burst > chain lightning is a lethal combo every time. Even as a fully stacked warrior the most I can do it get a charge and an auto attack off before getting deleted.
All that does is remove the “cannon” portion of glass cannon from Elemental. Youre still going to die to Lightning Bolt/Chain Lightning because you let him cast. Do you let mages stand still and freecast Fireball/Spellfire/Spellfrost Bolts?
too tanky
Make WoE require a shield, up the threat modifier.
muh autoattack
Make RB not stack.
And for gods sake buff 2h without indirectly buffing DW so the two subspecs can compete.
400 damage chain lightning? It can hit 4 targets
What about lava burst/overload on that? Get a nice 1k+500 from the second spell
It is not “never”. Undeads can’t be shamans/druids/hunters. + it works like “first fear does not count”. And yes, before you mention tremor totem, wand it.
It is not me only. Stop the drama.
As clueless people like you complain about 5 min CD immunity on daily basis.
Mage can just cast living flame and go afk in ice block and I die if I don’t have divine shield. 40 lvl things. Guess not anymore after recent nerf (86% of player moving speed now for his spell travel time).
Not every player is good at the game. Esp on classic. And we don’t even have metrics/competetive modes here.
They are not special for paladins. And that is the problem. A spell that requires you to go to the end of the holy tree. Has 30 sec cd. And it does raw 220 damage and gets treated like a short cd instant cast in terms of scaling. Developers of that time were lazy. And now we have tools to get more SP and reset the cd in SoD. Will it work on 60? We will see. Right now shockadin is still garbage. Not sure if it will be able to compete with reckoning on 60.
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Nerf pallies, then we’ll talk.
It’s a 2m cd. I was hearing it go off 5 times simultaenously in BGs.
I’m active in these threads. They’re calling for shaman on a baseline to be nerfed not just WoE. What do you mean ‘drama’. You love exaggerating things and making out like people are exaggerating and going over the top just for responding to you. You love doing this because you think it makes your own statements carry weight if you simply make out everyone else is irrational and emotional. So weak dude.
Yes it does. Shockadin is absolutely strong at 60 as is smite for a reason. No partial resists.
Bro you’re an idiot trying to defend a broken a$$ spec. Stop talking.
calling names and using symbols to bypass profanity filters.
youre not the type of person who should be telling anyone what to do ever.
good day to you.
And ps scream is 30 I believe. 30 secs < 2 minutes.
It is just you being a drama queen and going personal on me calling me a clown. I never said a bad word about you in that way. Maners make men.
Ok, now you have just shown you have no clue about paladins.
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Lololol
Once per 5 minutes get a kill, without bubble they are 2 shot my shamans Lolol
No you didn’t.
You repeatedly insulted anyone who thought Shamans were overperforming, and chased me thread to thread rage-replying to me about how “I should quit the game and the forums”
Shaman is over performing. Yes, even your particular brand of broken can be overpowered and need to be adjusted.
Being realistic about it garners significantly more respect, and consideration than insisting “it’s fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiine” for whatever placated goofball reason you’ve drummed up while comparing it to other classes/phases/etc.
Reality is Shaman is way, way over the top atm in ease of use to performance. It’s unfortunate the nerfs are coming so slowly on it, because it’s destroying the entire meta atm.
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