But you criticize him for bringing up something that had nothing to do with classic but you’re doing it yourself.
And I think Legion 2200 is pretty much a meme
I hit 2k rbgs before you started playing wow. Facts. RBGS are a joke and are indicative of no skill requirements. I have never taken pvp seriously, just like you’ve never set foot in mythic raiding or m+. Anyway, this is super, super stupid at this point.
The difference is, mine was to show how much I know about the subject, his was pve related and shows nothing about pvp knowledge.
I get what you are saying though, can’t say rbgs without saying mythic. But its still a great measurement for knowledge, when mythic raiding has nothing to do with BG ques.
Classic, it was playable. This, is not.
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I have no reason to step foot there because it’s not what I find fun. 2k is pvp is a joke. 2400 is there to be achieved, if you can’t get there, don’t use I don’t like pvp as the reason.
Funny, I started playing wow when they didn’t have RBGs so I will just go ahead and assume what you say from here on out is inaccurate.
In PVE yea. PVP? Not really
Retail cannot be looked at as proof, we’re not playing it rn. But yea, EMFH is OP cuz alliance could equip 2 DPS trinkets for years on retail back when it was a thing.
Doesn’t have to be merc mode. Can do horde vs horde, or just buff honor to balance out que times.
Play arena as rogue then tell me its overhyped. You’d much rather face orc than human as a stealth.
Like I said before. Only CC break horde has is WOTF that’s only useful against 2 classes. WOTF does absolutely nothing against mage, paladin, shaman, rogue, hunter, and druid.
Imagine rationalizing that horde should sit 6000% longer que times because they have a 5% racial advantage, or because of “min-maxing” 
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Even though rbgs aren’t in classic tbc. They kinda are with premades so it’s similar to think.
Also look at retail now. Pvpers. Most are horde. So most horde rbg times aren’t affected because they q against each other. Like barely anyone plays alliance side.
With different rating requirement for titles on retail it greatly affects the games and cr titles and such. Just like it will greatly affect tbc if not fixed like it was fixed.
I’m rationalizing it because that’s what they picked.
They picked it for whatever reason, but the majority of the player base picked it.
If you picked horde that was your choice, as such they are you consequences to deal with.
Perception is an easy fix. Pre vanish it.
That or los or step sap or many many other options to counter perception.
They play it up because they need to try and make alliance racials seem good.
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I’d be on board for horde > alliance transfers for a set amount of time and for a set amount of transfers so players don’t bumrush horde easy leveling and then transfer across afterwards.
No merc mode.
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I never said anything about suffering. My post showcases the OP’s argument is feebleminded and illogical.
“LOL LOOK AT ALL THESE META SLAVES GOING HORDE FOR RACIALS LOLOLOL”
“Wooooowew you guys went horde for pvp!?!? You should’ve known the meta and went alliance!!!1!1!1”
You a clown
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I like Orcs, I like PvP. Orcs are on horde, my friends are on Horde. I always played Horde, stop turning this crap into some stupid crap it isnt. If I wanted to play Alliance I would, but they are boring. Why would I bother with a faction that has humans, small humans and very small humans. Most of the Alliance faction races are just humans with varying sizes besides Dranei and Nelves. Alliance cities are boring, it’s all too human.
Horde has Orcs, Tauren who are basically Minotaurs, Undead who are just zombies, Trolls. All of these cool races, its no wonder people pick Horde. Nobody besides some sperg redditors are making this a big deal, when in reality Horde is just the more interesting faction to play as. I could not care less about how long the queues are, my life doesnt end because its not instant. Get that retail mind out of here, it doesnt belong in classic. Not everything needs to be NOW NOW NOW.
Lots of alliance players complain about phase 2 even now an we are tbc now lol
I main alliance on vanilla an yes they complain a lot more about getting gank.
I personally think this is the easiest of fixes, and will most likely be implemented.
Here is the difference, Phase 2 of classic caused leveling and raiding issues, but they ultimately choose to play on a PVP server.
This is an instanced que problem. People aren’t having problems on pvp servers, but all servers. The game will continue to grow and prosper when it works as intended for the majority of players. Currently it is not. Needs a fix.
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Post was flagged for speaking the truth… But please big daddy blizz fix my player created problem…lul get wrecked
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Nothing is wrong with character allegiance so long as you understand the cons of joining an overpopulated faction and not complain about those cons.
I didn’t join an overpopulated faction though. I played Nost/Ely/LH where the pop was steadily 50%-50% or at worst 48%-52% for classic, waited for classic to become an official product, and signed up for horde to play with my friends when the real deal came out in 2019.
I was there the day early name reservations became available. I was there since launch 2019. I choose horde without knowing any of these “consequences” that you folks parrot.
A lot of you, seemingly retail players, who joined up for classic and weren’t there with us on private servers… you folks like to point the finger and parrot this nonsensical argument that all horde players actively choose to play on an overpopulated and overbalanced faction… It’s hard for me to believe private servers players would miss this concept, and seriously believe this “you choose the consequences” nonsense because it’s completely illogical based on the past.
your blanket statement claims are completely false and illogical. I can’t tell if you guys are trolling, or just severely out of the loop that you think the propaganda you parrot that everyone on horde made X choices and deserves Y consequences is valid… it’s not at all.
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