Now connected to the Void? Destruction Warlocks obviously use Fel magic still, but Aff/Demo use Shadow magic. Even the Voidwalker is shown coming through a Void portal instead of a Fel green portal.
Edit - Just to clarify, I am referring to the addition of the Void being added to the Lore, specifically noted through the Chronicle Lore books. Not the defeat of Sargeras.
Warlock’s whole bit is exploring dangerous forces and bending them to their will.
They use fel/shadow magic and always have. It’s a fight fire with fire type of thing.
Defeating Argus doesn’t get rid of demons, the void, or fel. It just makes them less of a pressing threat. Those existed before Sargeras and will exist long after.
I think you misunderstood me.
I am aware that they have always used Fire and Shadow magic. I want to know if they have a connection to the Void, like Shadow Priests do.
Warlocks enslave the Void (or at least think they do), Shadow Priests embrace it. That’s your difference.
But they ARE in fact getting their Shadow magic from the Void then, right? Not from another source?
Well… yea. Shadow magic IS straight from the Void. I mean, what are you driving at with this?
About as much as the Burning Legion was getting shadow magic from the Void, yes.
Warlocks aren’t nearly as invested in Shadow magic as Shadow Priests are. Shadow Priests get really intense about immersing themselves in their field, while Warlocks just want to swipe some power for immediate practical results. However any Affliction or Demonology Warlock is going to have at least a basic working understanding of the field, and even Destruction Warlocks can branch out and cobble together a mixed school Shadowburn spell if they really try.
The thing about the void is that it is not like summoning a demon or enslaving an elemental. It doesn’t need to be bullied into submission. It is patient, insidious, and gnawing. You either use it or it uses you . In this sense, the way priests and warlocks use the Void is the same; it’s a matter of will.
Warlocks lore has changed many, many times over the years. Fel was corrupted life force, then corrupted Arcane, now it is demonic magic pulled from the Twisting Nether.
Shadow was a dark force of energy, that as far as I can tell, was just made through rituals. For a moment during Legion, Void was the deep end of dark magic, while Shadow was the shallow end. I want to know where it comes from now, canonically.
Shadow is Void. Here, from a Blizz Dev
https://twitter.com/Burnzerker/status/827410044694073344
https://twitter.com/Burnzerker/status/827410222486425600
So there you have it, Shadow and Void are interchangeable. Aka the same thing.
Ah, okay. I figured that was the case now.
Thank you for posting that. =)
If the void is an ocean
Warlocks basically use a tiny cup to grasp at some of the void’s power
Shadow Priests dive headfirst in and see how long they can hold their breath
Edit: Warlocks also generally are the jack of all trades when it comes to dark forces. They also wield a small amount of death magic.
On the schools of magic alignment seen in Chronicles Volume 1, it says verbatim Shadow (Void) and then a larger Shadow category. Right next door is Death and Necromantic magic.
In my humble opinion Shadow seems to be a big catchall category for Void, Necromantic, Death, and any type of dark magic that causes destruction or unmaking. You could say that both Priests and Death Knights use Shadow magic, but specifically Priests use the Void and DKs use Death/Necromantic.
In my opinion Warlocks use Fel, Fire, and the generic Shadow category.
Warlocks always used the Void. I mean, we have spammed Shadow Bolt since vanilla lol
Destruction uses more Fel. Affliction uses more of the Void. Demonology just calls for help the whole fight lol
Yep, we explicitly use the Void under the Affliction spec description.
Voidwalkers are demons.
Warlocks summon them.
Aff locks are a single school caster, only using shadow.
Aberrations can be banished alot of the time so I dunno. It’s murky.
I would say that shadow priests are glued to the void as much as holy priests are glued to the light. Locks pull power from the nether or from the void, but locks dominate while shadow priests worship.
It’s similar to a fire mage who controls fire while a shaman asks for help from the fire plane.
No, they are not. They are just classified as Demons for gameplay purposes but they are actually something else.
Blizzard confirmed this on Ask CDev round IV.
Ah thanks.
I didn’t mean demons. I meant useless.
Exactly this, though Voidwalkers are canonically aberrations and are only demons for gameplay purposes.
EDIT: Damn. Late to the punch, as usual.
Shadow Priests worship the Void and draw power from it…Warlocks enslave and steal power.
It’s why so many S. Priests fall to the whispers and Warlocks don’t - though usually the entity that the Warlock enslaved/stole from escapes to extract vengeance.