Warcraft is a game with one good expansion worth of average writing, and about 13 years worth of bad writing.
They are a gaming company, not an award winning movie studio. There’s a great reason why most gaming movies fail, Warcraft included.
You simply do not play Warcraft for a great story or writing.
It was a straight up suicide mission. Which is so freaking weird because we have the context that we’re running out of soldiers and are going to be recruiting farmers next.
just because it’s a suicide mission doesn’t mean we should send the forces on a direction where a good chunk of the force will likely die before even seeing the enemy.
had the horde done the smart thing and just defended the gate, then the entire plan would have failed
I tend to agree with you OP. The writing these days seems like bad GoT fanfiction minus the nudity.
“We’ll kill off main characters and create a wibbly wobbly line of succession and have characters commit atrocities because reasons because that’s what George R. R. Martin does.”
“Why?”
“I don’t know. Intrigue? Excitement? I mean, is it really ‘jumping the shark’ if you never come back down?”
“Wile E. Coyote, you are a super genius!”
If all they’re going to do is slowly destroy everything that consists of Warcrafts identity then just let the world die. Literally.
Much like Warhammer Fantasy did when the Old World was destroyed and then it jumped into realm wars.
Maybe that’s what we’re building up to…Sylvanas blows everything up so badly we have to jump worlds like the Draenei had to.
I would venture a guess, based on what we know about the blizzard offices, that the story just happens at dev meetings. Why pay for full time writers when you can hammer out a story at the same meeting you iron out the specifics of knocking people off of their mounts 300% as often…?
The writing is set up much like the game code. It’s spaghetti. There is no coherent story to play through. It bounces all over the place, covering up some things. Fixing others. Breaking other things. If it had a unified coherent story it would be a lot better but they do it on a expac by expac basis with no thought of what came before or what will come after it.
I have read fanfiction that is better than current BfA lore.
no, cause even in MOP he wanted to give Garrosh a proper orcish trial of makgora and wanted to duel to death with him
no dude, its also the story, they are rehashing mop plot like the horde are a bunch of completely retards for following the same path of killing spree that they DESPISE BEFORE
they don’t just rehahsed mop story they made it WORSE
Before, everyone was against Garrosh, even when he had perfect reasons to continue the war that Varian started, but now everyone despite saurfang and Baine are 100% behind sylvanas retarded reasons and even after she commit a genocide against the night elves
Eitrigg was 100% aginst Garrosh attack of theramore and dislike the mana bomb, but right now, he is Sylvanas ship helping her with al he can and the burning of teldrasil seems not to bother him
Vol’jin was against Garrosh since day 1, threatened to kill him and made a rebellion to despose him, but now? we only care about G’hun, some zandalari and the horde can blow itself
I can keep going to show how the writing suck balls,because they ruined some characters and forced they to act the way they want in their plot
Realistic, Sylvanas would never be Warchief, realistic her head would be on the pike after Teldrassil, but the characters and races were pervert, lobotomized and changed to fit the plot, they even said “the people is with sylvanas” thats dogcrap
Sadly, on some of this we will have to agree to disagree.
As an example, MoP Saurfang is not the same Orc as this Saurfang. More has passed.
Decisions over those years could be weighing on him. The burden of this is not the Horde he knew, perhaps causing him to feel his sons death was in vain, could be tearing away at him.
For all we know he wanted to challenge Garrosh hoping to lose and die an honorable death.
I also don’t agree all the Horde barring two are behind Sylvannas. I can’t think of his name but it is pretty clear the blood elf leader is opposed. He helped free Baine
All that said, though, unless a nice huge swerve comes down the pipes, you could be right. I am holding out hope we just dont see the swerve coming.
However, on top of all this, the story this expansion across all these different media still is not helping. And the pacing of the war campaign certainly is doing no favors.
If, end the end, you are correct I will have no issues saying i was wrong. Further I will accept the I told you so.
It is not Mists of Pandaria if we dont raid Sylvana in the end - Wow Devs
Testify!!!
That’s simple, say you wrote a book series, took you over a decade to get it all perfect and you thought everything was just right. You love what you made and couldn’t imagine ruining the perfect ending by forcing a new book in just to appease marketing.
Well… while you won’t continue the story that doesn’t mean that is the end in this case. They fire you for not continuing your story and hire in some people that read your books and seem to get the spitit of the story but miss some details since well… this isn’t their baby, who will notice if there’s a few plot holes?
And after a few more years the company is unhappy with having to pay these writers their higher salaries when they could just fire them and hire some new awful writers that work for peanuts. They fire the people that have been doing a fairly good job and then hire the cheap University of Phoenix online dropouts who have heard of your story but never read any of it. They don’t get paid enough to care anyway so they just bring back your most popular lore characters from the dead and make them fight in spaaaaaaacceeee! ooo000ooo and then they stab the world you worked so hard to create, literally and figuratively with a giant stupid sword.
Now the world you made is dying in your story because the hack writers stuck a sword in it and then they fire the phoenix dropouts and hire even cheaper indian tech support call center guys to continue the story… they copy-paste the cold war wikipedia article and change the word “nuke” with “azuryte” and the major leaders with lore character names.
So… what happened to the story? Activision killed it with a giant stupid sword of greed
Amen!
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I’m sorry but I don’t believe that at all. If anything, World of Warcraft at launch had more in common with Breath of the Wild than with story-driven games like Final Fantasy. The main character was the world itself, not Thrall, not Jaina, and certainly not you. You were just one of the nameless heroes of that world. And the game never held your hand with a narrative, the drive that kept people playing was exploration of that world (and obviously the RPG mechanics) it was never the narrative. The world was telling the story. And that was probably the right call at the time because without phasing tech the world had to be the same for every player.
It was only in Mists of Pandaria that Blizzard began telling a story that evolves over an expansion, probably because they realized they’d need to continue the Warcraft story otherwise they’d run out of villains, but even then it was never forced upon you, and you could do the quests in random order.
World of Warcraft just isn’t a narrative focused game, and it has never been. You have lore and a bit of quest story if that’s your thing, but this is not the main focus of the game.
I liked BC and Wraths writing so two expansions.
Great post. This could explain why so many players, such as myself, took it so personally when they wrecked the world with Cata.
One of the main reasons classic appeals to me is the return to the world of Azeroth before they ruined it in their quest to be edgy.
Not sure about bc, it had a lot of potential but never seemed to quite utilise it. Wrath they sorta did, it was good enough to feel like a consistent story throughout but in typical blizzard fashion it was in the young adults fiction section. But to it’s credit it was a consistent story where you felt you were getting somewhere with each quest.
I feel they need to have a couple in-depth, mature, stories. Things that don’t have adhd and get distracted with too many poor quality stories, instead of having steady consistent storytelling.
They need to employ actual writers who can deliver. Right now everything feels very disjointed and like it all goes in different directions, instead of telling the same story from different perspectives.
We know why he would do that, because is the orcs way, the horde way and the horde law, not some puny lame trial by pandarens.
If he wanted rly die then he could challenge sylvanas and die anyway
yeh, now after so much crap has passed, and blizzard alredy said the “people” of the horde for some reasons( who is just plot convenience) all support
You heard right, the people who consist most of a tribal, shamanist and spiritual, are supporting a UNDEAD ELF, GENOCIDAL, who spread the blight all over the places, who are forcing then to endure another war FOR NO REASONS
ALL OF THIS AFTER THEY ALREADY HAD A PROBLEM OF BLINDLY FOLLOWING ANOTHER LEADER.
what is this if not retard writing, just to fit their final plot?
i don’t even want to be right at this point, but the end i can only see they kerriganed sylvanas, after all the crap she did, or she will sacrifice to save the world because reasons, and we will love her despite every evil and villainous act she did and we will like that, or else
Now that I fully agree with and have been saying for some time.
I have a theory on how it will go down, but I don’t want to get into that here.