Now, i hate to jump on the Ion hate bandwagon, because i dont think he’s entirely at fault for everything that’s thrown at him, but i have to say the only way this is going to be averted is tied to him.
Ion has shown several expansions now that he and his team do NOT like being told a system doesn’t work, or that they’re wrong on something. They will double down on it and beat it into a vaguely horse-shaped crater until they are finally forced to give up and relent. As long as this mentality is at the head of wow’s development, i don’t forsee things changing any time soon.
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Legion still had massive issues in the beginning. Remember when entire classes and specs weren’t viable unless you had certain legendary’s? People seem to like to overlook the issues that legion had because BFA was just so bad, but Legion was far from perfect too.
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Old school players? Probably with more sadness and less anger lol
No one knows those were the old forums
Still really good expansion
It was a vanilla crowd were there were no catchups and it was also the first expansion in 2006 . Too much difference to compare.
I don’t know if should praise that or think it’s bad. At one hand he won’t back down to fans. Will create he’s art the way he wants. The other hand the fans of his game will be angered if they don’t like the things they create. Honestly at this point it’s case by case
Also several? From tbc to bfa? Didn’t know he was on the team for that long
You’re mistaking me as speaking about delaying expansions. thats not what i was saying, i was saying about game systems in general.
Probably a lot of them didn’t know that it even was delayed. I sure as heck didn’t know. Didn’t really care either I was still playing the game as well as doing many other things. I don’t understand why some people are freaking out so badly about this.
The reaction funnily enough is about the same as it is now.
Here is an article that has some comments on it from 2006 with comments on the bottom.
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/news241006wowtbc
Here are some highlights
14 years ago
Thank you blizzard for waiting long enough for most raiding guilds to restucture for Bc before letting us know we had been misled as to when it was coming out. Score another for your marvelous PR.
14 years ago
b!}€]]%[… I’d been putting stuff off expecting an end of nov launch, now i’ll have to grind that faction afterall 
14 years ago
f#^}^{* typical, may as well cancel my preorder then. shame i had most of dec off lol.
14 years ago
Better a delay and a working expansion than an incomplete expansion fixed through patches as per normal though
(Censored so I don’t catch a vacation)
Funny, since the reaction 14 years ago is almost exactly the same.
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That was not a thing at any point. You always used your account login to post on the forums.
Some were negative as you will always have but it wasn’t to this kind of point. You also had a few nutters who unironically tried to argue that there was no need for a delay and that it was only happening because Blizzard wanted to make people go back into Naxxramas. Since the main issue Naxxramas had is when TBC was 2-3 months out still a lot of guilds just quit progressing at all because they would replace the gear in the new questing generally. This wasn’t just a problem with Naxx either, even guilds still stuck in BWL did this.
The real drama happened on the shaman forums when TBC actually did launch, namely with Tseric who basically got so sick of seeing the cry threads on the shaman forums he just began banning literally everybody and had a meltdown. I don’t blame the guy. I imagine it’s pretty taxing to have to moderate a forum where 90% of posts are screeching for buffs, or if someone asks for advice on how to play a shaman because it looks cool to them then they get swamped with “DON’T ROLL THIS CLASS BECAUSE IT’S GIMPED AND BLIZZARD HATES US!” replies.
If I didn’t know better about Activision and their tendency to be the kind of people to not only steal your kidney, but then collect the blood in a desperate bid to make a quick buck in addition to selling the kidney. I would honestly say they probably moved to automated forum moderation mixed in with some level of community policing via flagging just because having to moderate these forums probably would leave someone so mentally screwed up they’d have an actual case for lawsuit. . . or they’d need to pay for therapy sessions daily to cover each of their employees designated to moderate this cesspit.
The best comparison I can give is from South Park when Butters gets tasked with managing all of the hate mail for people and just completely loses it. I imagine that is how forum moderators must feel.
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Also, cancel culture did not exist then, hence there was no need for refunds and people waited.
I guess people feel more and more entitled over the years.
Tbh it really wasn’t that big a deal then, and it still isn’t today.
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Not nearly as whiny amongst the people I played with.
We complained a little on comms and used the extra time to clear more of Naxx.
You can’t really compared the first expansion to the most recent, TBC had only one hurdle to clear: take the original game to the next level - and people werent unhappy with wow in the least back then, just bored or just excited for something new.
Meanwhile shadowlands getting delayed, means we are stuck in BFA even longer - basically like getting locked in a portable toilet in the middle of summer, we just want out as soon as possible.
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wasnt even aware that TBC got delayed, then again though I barely came to the forums when it was only vanilla.
I didnt read about it or care about the delay. All I knew was what a friend in beta told us. Quest greens better than tier 3 gear that we had in live. Waiting for the portal to go live not knowing what was on the other side is something the game has lost. Now everything is posted months before you see it so no suspense.
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Player base was much more mature in 2007 than it is now.
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Did you not look ay my post lol, the reaction was exactly the same.