There was that female foresaken in Eversong, who I’m sure is the same NPC as was in the original blood elf starting zone. We even had to go fight the scarlet crusade again, who I thought was completely gone in the forsaken heritage quest. I don’t know if this was suppose to be instant, as in the other races still have some travel time and the only people really here are the ones summoned by the sunwell, but I get what you mean, I know blizzard has really been talking about the reunification of the elves, which will probably involve sylvanas, but we will have to see what they do with non-elven races.
To be brutally honest I’ve never given a damn about the Blood elves, and to me ‘The Horde’ will really only ever truly mean the Kalimdor Horde of orcs trolls tauren and goblins. The Belves are Edgy Hipsters and the Forsaken are Edgy Goths.
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Tbh I don’t want the Darkfallen embroiled in this Elf Unity nonsense. They’re undead. It’s not like they’re immigrants they’re a separate species.
And as for Sylvanas, I will be maulding if she comes back for elf stuff unless it’s in a Forsaken focused story beat. She owes an immense amount of explaining to the Forsaken. They damn near worshipped her and she didn’t just betray them. She murdered them even as they displayed their loyalty to her. And did so knowing full well their souls would go straight to Hell.
If they completely wash over that I might actually quit. Yeah she dragged the Elves and all of the Horde into her BS but nobody was done dirtier than the Forsaken.
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Yep, I don’t either, I already have blood elf fatigue, but I think most people on the horde just play blood elves anyway and that is why we are getting a blood elf expansion.
I wonder if blizzard will remember that the darkfallen exist. But the writing seems to be on the wall with that Maw quest we got with Arator simping for her and telling Alleria how much she is like her, they seem to be wanting to unite the sisters which would go along with their “elf unification” message. Maybe they will have her do something with the forsaken if she returns, but it seems to heavily be leaning into a sister reunification plotline.
We already have data mining for the unification of the Elves: *MAJOR SPOILERS* The raid story and the unification of the elves! It probably doesn’t involve Sylvanas, as her lines would probably already have been recorded as well, probably back when they recorded the voice lines for her part in the Arator pre-pre-patch questline.
Not that they will be done at the same time, but isn’t this going to be the current patches content with the raid? I’m guessing the Sylvanas stuff will be later on, otherwise I don’t know why we did that pre-patch quest with Sylvanas and Arator.
..I actually didn’t mind blood elves at first, back when they were a subversion- they look like a mash between standard Tolkien elves and Orientalist (Ottoman?) decadence, but in truth, they’re ruthless pragmatic emotionally scarred survivors who are basically mana vampires constantly skirting the edge of withering into walking metaphors for addiction.
Sadly, that was lost pretty much immediately, leaving image but no substance.
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They should have tried to find some middle-ground between the old and the new. A people with a troubled past rediscovering/renewing their heritage and ancient traditions fits well with the Orc story in Warcraft 3/Lord of the Clans/etc, but people liked Kael’thas and the Sunfury for a reason.
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And I will froth at the mouth if that happens. Because yeah she was an extremely important Ranger General. Failed but fought valiantly in their darkest hour.
But there’s a lot of Ranger Generals.
There’s only been one Banshee Queen.
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the alliance can access 2/3 of the city. Before, they could acess 0/3 of the city, so this is correct
The city was literally coded in blue flags and teal gems to be alliance
One faction has never had disproportionate access to the story and since shadowlands its being an alliance story so suck it up about asymmetrical treatment.
Or you know, when we get to raid stormwind and defeat anduin, then you can cry about asymmetrical treatment
“none of of what happened is important” except you know, the entire main story
ASYMETRICAL TREATMENT
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horde is in the story thru blood elves, thats the screen time of the horde for you
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The expansion is mainly about revamping a horde city and starting zone without doing the same for an alliance city or starting zone, of course the alliance will have limited access to the city the expansion is based around.
The horde already destroyed an alliance city with Darnassus and the horde got to genocide an entire alliance race, now the night elves live in some hut ghetto on an irrelevant island as a basically now dead race. Never before has one faction has disproportionate access to a hub city as we are seeing now.
Pretending the entire main story is all about the alliance is stupid, the expansion is just so horde focused any time an alliance character pops up looks skewed to you. The main story revolves mainly around the sunwell and the blood elves, there are some minor side quests happening with Liadrin, Halduron for the blood elves and then Arator and Alleria for elves but not blood elves. Everything revolves around Silvermoon and the Sunwell. Most of the main story at max level is going to be Lor’themar and crew uniting the elves.
Alliance and horde did the same Tyrande quest, you are just mad she started off angry because you’ve been attacking Ashenvale for years, but then she softens and likes the horde player more towards the end, but you can’t get over her not worshipping your from the start which is idiotic to expect that from a enemy faction leader.
It wasn’t the light.
It was azeroth.
We find out after void spire.
Not really. Most of the high command of the “new scarlets” escaped. While some were later dealt with in the Gilneas reclaimation chain, which happens after the Forsaken Heritage armor chain, there was at least person who was unaccounted for. Then what was left of them merged with other factions like the Syndicate, a splinter group of Defias and some of Stormguards own personal to form the Red Dawn.
Even the beloved goofball Joseph from the cata era of dungeon quests for the classic SM dungeons joined the Red Dawn. To which we kill him.
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The expansion is not about that, that is just the place where the expansion happens. the plot is about the windrunner familly the sunwell and the xalatoth
Do you know how to read?
I said INVADE, RAID, SACK THE CITY AND DEFEAT THEIR LEADER. Not destroying a city, undercity was also destroyed and you got a new tree.
Again, never before a faction was so disproportionate in terms of characters being killed and the faction out of the story for FOUR EXPANSIONS STRAIGHT
The entire main story is lead and told by the lens of alliance character, pretending its not is stupid
they are the main characters period.
Everything revolves around Alleria, Arator, Turalyon and Xalatoth
Yeah, the horde shouldnt be doing that
Remind you they removed Baine quest in Legion because they didnt want alliance to interact with a horde leader
But though it was fine to kept a quest that forces a horde character interact with alliance leader
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Maybe the Forsaken are still preoccupied with re-settling Tirisfal and Northern Silverpine? Midnight is in Year 43, right? Though even then — Shadowlands was year 36. One would imagine the Forsaken would’ve at the very least been able to secure Tirisfal and send their Navy/forces to Quel’thelas or by land.
I’m at a loss, truth be told.
If Light’s Hope is struggling to hold out against the scourge in the EPL (side note, the Scourge are, surprisingly, a thing. Even though you’d imagine post Shadowlands they’d be at their weakest point ever in the narrative) ---- maybe Scourge or the Void forces are sieged Capital City/Tirisfal?
I’m at a loss man. I’m trying to make it make sense.
I assure you the problem is you’re trying to use logic.
Instead, try to use “Wouldn’t it be cool if…” to determine the flow of events, but be sure to have an older male colleague stand near you and say, “How much will it cost to do this?” and if you try to justify your idea, his only reply should be, “Think smaller, more reasonable.”
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I mean, they literally have a line of NPCs evacuating to various cities near the portal room in SM. Portal magic wasn’t just a one off in Arator’s little field trip. Its still actively working in both SM and Quel’thalas. Within one of the two most advanced arcane civilizations on the planet; the other being with the NBs in Surumar.
The reason the Horde is not defending one of its own major capitals beyond a tiny handful of Sunwalkers, and two Prelates (one of which worships Tyr) is because “it doesnt fit the story Blizz wants to tell”. Which revolves an Elf Unity storyline built upon a foundation of making the BEs indebted to their largely Alliance Elven saviors.
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It is, there was no other reason to set the expansion in Silvermoon, they just wanted to revamp the city and zone so made the expansion about the blood elves, silvermoon, the sunwell and the windrunners, because that is the story they wanted to right.
The horde also destroyed their own city in BFA, they also got it back, unlike the night elves. The night elves didn’t get a new tree, they are guarding the Dragonflight’s tree, they got some huts around the tree to protect the dragonflight’s power, the tree actually gave the night elves nothing.
It’s literally not, we follow two blood elves in ZA and Harandor, then they make up a story for Arator in a non-zone, even in the Void zone the story is all about saving and protecting Silvermoon. The story is all about silvermoon, the sunwell and the blood elves, there are some tangents stories about how cringe and irrelevant Arator and Turalyon are, but pretending the story is led by the alliance is idiotic.
Alliance have had to interact with horde leaders all the time, like Vol’jin in MoP, Baine a lot, and the alliance had to suffer through things like the Thrall wedding in Cata, there was actually no questline in wow that was worse than that. Not to mention the Thrall Dragon Soul raid or Thrall uncovering the corruption in the church instead of that being an alliance plotline. Not to mention things like blizzard cutting the Alliance twilight highlands intro etc. But all you care about is Tyrande having one slightly rude sentence to you ten years ago after the horde had been destroying Ashenvale for years, and then she comes around but THAT is the most egregious crime in history lmao
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What other place the expansion could possible be
All right, where is the alliance destroying their own city ina pathethic attempt that did nothing to the enemy?
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THey did
You are just being a lying fool now
We dont, we follow zul’jara and orwyrena or whatever she is called, Liadrin and halduron are tag along, dont serve no purpose in the narrative and if you remove them everything goes the same
Stop lying
you came up with AsYmEtRiCaL TrEaTmEnT, and you are not even realizing how the role Arator, Tuyralion and Alleria is massively bigger than Liadrin and halduron just bein token npc in sidequest zones
The lore is lead by arator, alleria and turalyion you dingus, the army of the light is the main force of the defense in the city, the sons of lothar are in full force back
Pretending the story is NOT lead by the alliance is being idiotic and MORONIC
They do not like the horde do, just stop, Thrall wedding is barely 5 quests and you do mroe quests with malfurion in firelands and Thrall was neutral and had left the horde
If you wanna count Thrall as horde count Tirion and bolvar as alliance and they were the main guys at the end of wrath
shut up dude, you invoked AsYmEtRiCaL TrEaTmEnT and you got destroyed by it
FOUR EXPANSIONS OF ALLIANCE FOCUSED STORY
FOUR
EXPANSIONS
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