So.. when does shadow get to be competitve?

I literally called these buffs incoming weeks ago…

This puts Shadow up there with Locks and Mages now.

Based off of this log (first one i came across)
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/fXyhJVazrK9vG6qp#fight=2&type=damage-done&source=2

It’s about a 7.5-8% overall buff

Yeah these were the revised numbers, ST ended up being about 4% too.

It also adds more legitimacy to the VF Yogg builds we’re seeing pop in higher fort keys

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/234014456584077313/1198338897646719066/image.png?ex=65be8b11&is=65ac1611&hm=125534cefcd323e781ab77059beeb8609dd614a83dddc66fab7a5e402876ea96&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=410&height=554

Are we supposed to be impressed by a 2800 io hunter?

This thread is a train wreck and you’re embarrassing yourself.

ah well! and yet, somehow, i was right :slight_smile: :slight_smile: :slight_smile: :slight_smile: even this subforum’s god ellipticals is pleading shadow’s case on the main forums, echoing every darn thing i said, lololololol (he even said shadow is in THE BOTTOM 5 specs and needs help!) strange, huh!?! talk about competitive! it’s like his coolie anon fanclub wasn’t there so he didn’t have to worry about showing off or something!

and don’t be impressed! i’m sure i’ll find a way to move on. and this is a forum on the internet, if you’re worried about embarrassment, you need a more substantial personal life, lol. i am just sayin’! :person_shrugging: :person_shrugging:

All the while you edit the samw post 4 times lol

Anywho, Ellipsis has always advocated for buffs for Priest. That in no way reflects nor echos youe claims of not being able to do more than tank level damage or that youre unable to keep up.

You can be in the bottom 5 and still be competitive. You first have to understand the data that puts shadow in the bottom 5.
Edit to add: and you’ll never mimic that data in a PuG setting. Nor in a Mythic Progression guild either

I can pull random logs showing Spriests in the top 3rd.

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Its cute how you act like this isn’t important to you when you’re in here crying in every post and you edited this 3 times. Unfortunately its just a fact that if you don’t know how to play shadow you’re not really in a place to comment on balance issues. Good luck out there chief.

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Has the math been done on how this will compare to the current fortified builds? I usually play the cookie cutter n’zoth + c’thun + da build during fortified weeks, but I flex the points from mastermind into screams of the void. I’d sure love an excuse to play VF instead…

Also that was raids, this thread is about keys.

The math always says it’s worse because it overvalues bosses in the models but people have been blasting with VF yogg builds before the buffs too. In raw AoE though it is firmly ahead if the encounters last long enough to get all of it out.

You kinda want the crafted helm for it tho.

The Vibrant Wildercloth Helm with blue suede lining? I have it for pvp. Most of my gear decisions were made with disc in mind, but I’ve been playing a lot more shadow lately. I could rock the helm and catalyze some 489 haste/mastery shoulders if its worthwhile, but I’ll maybe wait and see how things shake out before I do that.

No, the one that gives you haste when you hit a new target.

Ah, I forgot about that one. Maybe in a week…

which took a grand total of ten minutes. foreign concept to you i know, this dude takes a AT LEAST a half hour to whip up a post with a total max word count of like 100 lol.

whatever you say, 2400 anon king! the priest buffs prove i was right!!! you keep blindly, aggressively sticking up for and rationalizing for ellipticals tho. makes no difference to me, cause either way all you’ve had left are personal attacks anyway. prob cause you knew i was right!! :person_shrugging: :joy: :rofl:

yep, it’s all about raids all right! amirdrassil +20!

right from the mouth of your shadow forum god and STILL the aggressive denial!! weird, huh!?!? anyway. this is so sad, lol. i can’t even anymore, lololol. have a good day, peeps!

your right it isnt always that but for you it 100% is a you problem.

edit: just a quick update i did some more shadow keys around the level 20 range…never once did i feel like i was competing with the tank.

oh weird, yet another personal attack from Player-too-Scared-to-Post-on-a-Character-they-Play #384885855858, cause they can’t scrounge up anything else! the grapes are so sour, lololol. ahh, today is so dope, lemonsnacks! and nah, it’s a 100% you problem, a grown adult shouldn’t be so scared to allow others to see their character in a freaking video game. i didn’t a single time, cause i didn’t have to, i was right the entire time. :person_shrugging: :laughing: :rofl: :joy: and no one knows what you do on your priest, cause of your ‘inside joke with ur friend’, so why would i believe anything you say, anonymo? :roll_eyes: :rofl:

No it doesn’t. Spriests are competitive and doing more than tank damage without the buffs lol

Youre the only one going out with personal attacks - everyone else has been able to link data.

What you quoted doesn’t reinforce anything you said lol but good try :slight_smile:

It’s not a personal attack. Again, for your ilvl, you’re doing about half the damage that you should be. That has nothing to do with the class. That’s a personal skill issue.

Link your quotes and the data to back up you were right…you know, like everyone else did in counterarguments against you…if you can find any lol

wow, that hunter is losing his mind.

blah blah blah, it can’t get anymore factual than quoting the dang person who said it, lol. you keep denying, though, i get it. can’t keep riding someone’s coattails if they don’t like you, amirite? :joy:

re: go through this thread peoples, see how many times ‘NaH u JuZt sUk MaN!!!’ was clumsily lobbed at me cause, well you know, this is what flunkies like 2400 anon king grizzers live for! good thing i legit couldn’t care less what anyone in a forum thread would say to me tho, huh? or my feelings would be hurt! :person_shrugging:

yawn, you’re just once again showing your incomprehension, which is either genuine or you don’t want to upset your idol, but again, i get it, 2400 anon king! you’re a part of the level 10’ers in here who have banded together!

also for anyone interested, go check out that main thread on the forums i quoted. so many ellipticals gems similiar to the one i posted here. pretty amusing how adept he is at speaking out of both ends of his mouth. dude has skills in that at least, i will gladly admit!
because up in the priest forums around heah shadow is in fact freaking awesome who pulls +28 on the reg! a pretty far cry from the SINGLE quote i posted! :rofl:

yep it is. your sad, schoolyard go-to ‘no u!!!1’ doesn’t work here, either. sorry 2400 anon king! spend this time practicing druid already, even though, as i quoted directly from your idol, balance’s inherent aoe playstyle is kinda lousy, too! but hey, now you can feel rightly discouraged from playing it, i guess. watch out for people telling you you suck regardless, though! :person_shrugging: :rofl:

already did! your willful ignorance and questionable comprehension skills (again) doesn’t change this! go, comb over this thread (for the umpteenth time, probably, lol).

ahh, and there it is, plain as day!!

and this will be disputed, because that is a forum flunkie’s bread and butter, after all…

when ellipticals points out how crappy shadow is (as quoted, and there’s plenty more in that thread, btw, go read up on it… it is freaking great, lol) it’s ‘advocating’.

now follow closely here people, i know you guys struggle:

when anyone else points out shadow’s huge, glaring fundamental problems??? (because 3 consecutive buffs weren’t enough for some, lololol) it’s ‘whining because you just suck!’

and that’s a wrap for me! i was right!!! and i didn’t even have to hide, even once :rofl:

with happiness! i might be able to play my shadow priest again on tuesday without feeling like a useless appendage other than handing out power infusion and dispels!

Show me the blue quote saying that priests are getting buffs because they’re barely competing with tanks in for DPS…don’t worry, I’ll wait.

“cause” you’re doing sub par damage based on skill. There’s no reason you should be topping out at 130-150k damage at your ilvl in 20’s when you’ve got priests pushing 250-300k in that range (and upwards of 400k in higher keys). Stating facts isn’t a personal attack.

Well when you’re unable to actually hold a discussion with any relevant proof to back yourself up, just keep using a one liner over and over. If I was anon, how would you know my score is 2400? If I was level 10, why does it reflect level 70? Before I was just annoyed at you, but now i’m starting to pity you.

Yet this is the only thing you’ve been doing from the beginning as soon as someone held a different opinion from you lol

If i had ever played Balance this would hold up. Regardless, I know the state of Ferals and yet I’m still not making posts claiming they’re struggling to compete with tanks. Odd.

You haven’t. You’ve made random claims with no actual proof. The only thing you’ve been doing is the “no u” argument as early as your 3rd post in this thread. You haven’t actually posted anything. You just keep repeating yourself which is just deflection instead of actual answers to direct questions and evidence presented before you.

Here i’ll quote something for you:

Entirely different things, but way to move the goal posts. People aren’t taking their personal skill and trying to use that as a reason why something needs buffs. You could play a VDH and still suck and still request buffs, and it would still constitute as whining.

Maybe you should go read the thread and see what the difference is.

Nope you’re still gonna feel that way because the buffs aren’t going to suddenly make you start doing 200k more damage. You’re still going be parsing 50’s until you figure out how to play the spec properly.