Yes, and that was nerfed.
Nowhere in anything that I said was it aimed at any style or type of player. Itâs just a factâŚFire Mage is the hardest caster class. Fact.
And DC is just something else that obviously wasnât too good that everyone wants to bash Fire Mage over as always. If you look at the damage charts Druid is topping it right now. HellâŚArcane beat out Fire Mage. YeahâŚsuch a buff.
They play fire mage.
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nice add target cap to mage and go away wont affect avg players which is 99percent of us anyway
Meanwhile Fmages are doing the best on most, if not all, of the areas you mentioned.
At this point itâs pretty awful to defend for the devs
Good. So itâs irrelevant to this thread. Maybe you should start a new thread and discuss your thoughts about the difficulty of Fire Mage play?
Itâs generally understood this is NOW the best legendary, after it was buffed. Thatâs a spec buff. Hence this thread.
Thereâs a reason why FM is the most played class in all competitive and casual play. Nobody said it was because it did the very top DPS. Itâs because it is at or near the top in every category that matters⌠and getting back to this thread, because it was buffed in spite of these facts.
Itâs okay to have specs with tradeoffs⌠best DPS, but poor survivability, etc. Itâs not okay to be S- or A-tier in everything, AND for it to be getting buffs on top of that.
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what are you talking about, I play restro shaman in bfa dungeons and had great blast
I donât think thatâs necessarily true. Hunter is the most played class in the keys that most of us are running. People take fire mages because they think itâs great in unorganized pugs. Itâs really not. Youâd do more overall dps as frost if the tank is pulling one pack at a time.
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Roll FM thenâŚor just quit complaining and donât hate on my Combust. 
Just another wanna be smartie pants with a desire to make someone sound irrelevant in order to make themselves seem important. Itâs all good. Iâm over here rolling in all these âbuffsâ while you over there mad at the world.
Based on what youâre saying, the idea of creating a character that follows a specific class/spec is clearly wrong for WoW, despite it being core to RPGs. I say this because what youâre saying is that for a class to be okay it has to have at least one form of content where it is subpar. Rather than give all classes/specs tools to succeed in all forms of content, instead, ensure that x sucks at PVP, y sucks at raiding, and z sucks at M+.
I roll my face on my keyboard when combustion isnât up and my logs are pretty good. I have no idea where youâre getting this from.
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Yeah, I mean I think itâs harder than frost but not wasting combustion is really the only hard part and I think that applies to most classes. So I agreeâŚI donât think itâs overly difficult to play.
I still see some finesse with how choose pyroblasts and flamestrikes. For example, when itâs bolstering, and thereâs an enemy with more health than others prompting to use more pyroblasts at the start before switching to flamestrikes. But yea, itâs not difficult after practicing a bit. Playing the class/spec shouldnât be complicated anyway. Thatâs what mechanics are for in my opinion.
Yeah, I think itâs actually fairly simple to play in keys. If youâre anything like me, youâve wasted a few combustions during raid. Maybe more than a few lol.
Of course I didnât say that at all itâs right in the post to which you replied. I said:
I canât think of a way to restate that more plainly that I already did. You might want to note what i said after âANDâŚâ though to help you understand.
they have to buff mages due to nerfing rets every 2 to 3 weeks, blizz logic.
It only began being somewhat good in Eternal Palace and the first iter where it was truly meta was Nyâalotha. Donât worry, theyâll destroy our scaling in 9.1 by nerfing a bunch of our stuff and the spec wonât be good for another two expansions. 
I get that technically you arenât saying that, but then why bring up âgood in everythingâ in the first place, and why emphasize the âANDâ as if itâs an additional point on top of the previous? A âfire was already in a good spot, there was no reason to buff itâ would have sufficed. Itâs easy to see how I arrived at my interpretation based on what you wrote and how it was written.
Anyway, the buff was unnecessary. I donât think any fire mage was asking for a buff at this point, let alone have to do more chores to get the new bis legendary. This was an indirect buff that came about out of the desire to make an underused legendary see more play. As a result, until multiple legendaries can be used, this just outclasses one of Fireâs specific legendaries (fevered incantation) in a majority of cases.