Yeah i stopped reading there
Well that’s just wrong. My wind serpent hits for about 150. Arcane mages are hitting for anywhere between 700 and 1.5k with Arcane Surge. Living Flame ticks for 60 every second for 15 seconds.
my god you are all missing my point.
WHY DO ROUGES SHOOT AT 0YRDS AND HUNTERS DONT!?!
Nobody said anything about damage, or pets, or anything…
this post flew over so many heads, no wonder you all play Classic.
Yeah you’re right actually. The fact rogues have no deadzone while the abilities actually do something and do 2x as much dmg as hunter abilities is eye opening
lolol
You just compared a pet ability to a 2.5s cast, a 2 minute cooldown that uses ALL a mages mana, and a 1 minute cooldown that does less dps than your pets autoattack.
There’s simply no conversing with hunters.
You have a one thousand five hundred (1500) damage instant nuke that one shots anyone in the game and you are complaining about a hunter pet doing 150 damage… bro what am i reading… do you want everyone to just spread their cheeks for you the first time they meet you ???
1500 instant? you mean 800 nuke that crits 20% of the time (aka once every 10 minutes) and only can hit that hard after standing still and casting 4 arcane blasts … AKA a 10 second nuke? You mean that one?
And stop talking to me like im a mage, im not a mage, though i do have more intellect than you.
I have never seen anyone so ungrateful… Lol. One shot someone every 10 minutes yet complains about another class doing 150 damage… man give it up some people just like to complain.
Yeah but you can’t hunt with pistols, duh!
iTs oNlY 150 dAmAgE
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I’d gladly take 900 damage every 10 seconds over one 1k+ crit that requires 10 seconds of setup every 10 minutes
Lol?
The most power class atm is complaining about two of the worst rogue runes.
Its actually comical
HuNtErS sHoUlD hAvE rAnGe 0 AnD bE mElEe ToO!
Part of playing a hunter is creating distance and range, its one of the balancing features of the class. You can also just sit at 35 yds and kite accordingly to never be touched, which no melee class could ever do.
Both rogue abilities are for gap closing and pretty sub. Hunter abilities are designed for creating distance alternatively, from which you can counter almost any class highly effectively throughout most if not all phases of the game.
Hunters are very strong, theres no need for further range adjustments.
Get over yourself
It was obviously a hyperbolic statement but the truth behind it is I wish mages had spells that could open on someone like a windserpent, we have nothing that even approaches that right now outside of the spell you quoted, that spell costs 2300 mana… It’s not the same thing.
BTW in WSG your pet dmg isn’t nerfed but my 2.5 second AB does 150 non crit, so you see my point.
Living flame is really good… if you’re a trogg.
For the record the 1500 dmg arcane surge will NEVER happen in a reasonable setting. Maybe at 40 you can do 2xAB into surge with 31 point arcane. That will most likely be the new 3-minute mage spec.
This thread is why hunters deserve more nerfs. The people who play them are just something else, but I’m glad to see the “affectionate nickname” they were given 20 years ago still holds true today.
Deadzone only annoys me in pve, where the tank moves the boss too close, or somebody pulls aggro. It wasn’t as annoying in regular wow, but with the sniper rune, I lose 10% crit repositioning myself.
In pvp, it hardly matters, and will matter even less once we get FD+Trap or scattershot.
That only works if they are afk
it costs a 2 minute cd
all of your mana
your evocate 8 min cd
I would literally trade that spell for starsurge, chaos bolt, lava burst without flameshock, frostfire bolt, lightning breath, penance, or pretty much any other nuke in the game. No hyperbole, the spell is that bad and it’s a leg rune which is where icy veins and living flame go.
On the brightside next phase it is most likely going to kill people inside of a polymorph
Tbh i’ve always thought of hunters as ranged rogues, but that’s just me.
You need a slow pet, did you miss the memo?
…because hunters have no abilities they can use on the run.
ok…
Considering all runes and talents are spent on the pets, they’re really not insane. Yes LB is bursty, but it’s actually less dps than a cat.
Yet rogues out dps huhters at all percentiles lol.