Well I don’t have these issues on my Pally. people die in like 5 secs, and engineering helps.
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Go prot and be captain America.
is that why there were zero prot/rets paladins in Vanilla?
is that why we had practically zero rets until T6 phase?
Yes, they all got a good buff in Wrath, and that’s about it. One glory expansion. Meanwhile warlocks are top 3 every since Vanilla. What gives?
Firstly, yes engi is great. Secondly, you can’t use engi in arenas.
Noone said Arena stop changing the bar.
… Who hurt you? Honestly. I’ve seen you hate on Rets in Maladath ever since I saw you in LFG channel and now you’re channeling your Ret hate on forums as well. What Ret paladin stole a piece of gear from you? 
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Freedom or dispel yourself
40 sec HoJ and instant cast Rep
Why in the world would you use wings with no healer? That means you can’t bubble.
Probably because you are using wings and they know you have no bubble.
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I’ll be real here, not even close to glory unless we are starting at og 3.0. All pally specs are up to par with all the other S tiers now. I wouldn’t say above** unless we start at the og patches
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I’ve always enjoyed ret in PvP.
Either git gud or roll a class that suits your play style.
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You are a blast at parties aren’t you? Do you need a cookie? A hug? Meds?
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Ret is good get better at the game you noobs. Also don’t play 2s legit pointless unless your a viable spec.
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Toward the end of Wrath Prot pally was amazing in pvp (geared)
We are in the final wrath patch so Ret isn’t as strong right out the gate. Same with Dks. We are still good just not gods.
Play Ret/MM in 2s or Cupid in 3s.
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I have a feral, can’t justify giving them anymore boost money with all these woke bans being thrown around.
Eh preg isn’t that much better than ret I don’t think.
How? outside of bop? No cc no mobility, no peels.
Everything I have gets insta dispelled.
What kind of gear? I am full savage with deadly off pieces and I have the titansteel 1hand and the damage is Meh. Casters still blow my doors off same as ret.
No but I played ret at a very high rating in the past. Hoj is cc to you huh? Do you realize how much stuff Hoj dr’s with? Repent? lol
No but I am trying to play with a buddy instead of Meta and its terrible. Pretty much have to play meta now days. I just didn’t remember ret being this overnerfed by end of wrath. I don’t raid either, like ever.
another fotm roller famished
Ret was not designed with mobility in mind. No idea why people that play ret wanna be race cars. If you want to be plate with mobility warrior is your only option
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Played Ret in WOTLK and 2v2 was my jam.
Get a good mage and rotate around burst windows you can easily hit 2200-2400.
You can force healers trinkets with Hammer or Polly. Reset by humping pillar / healing and redo your burst rotation.
Just watch a guide already if it’s that complicated for you. Ret’s fine, infact all classes can reach high rating. Some easier some harder, but it’s doable.
All your time spent whining would be productive if it was time spent practicing.
sit the eff down son, you’re drunk