do you not read? I've boycotted for almost 5 years you doofus. I'm also currently unsubbed and have been for 2 months, i tried bfa and quit immediately.
/shrug saw 120, thought you might’ve still had an active sub.
Unironically, good for you though. So many posers hoot and yell about quitting if X change doesn’t happen but never actually commit, which dampens the impact of those who do vote with their wallets. Wish more players would stick to their guns like you have.
my gnome mage died like 5 times. And I found drinking after fights to be necessary and eating too.
I'm not seeing the "easy mode" or the "high health regen" that you guys are.
its not even about the difficulty, its more about the damage numbers / combat system / phasing. These are changes I will not tolerate, I wont be buying this and I'm a HARDCORE vanilla player from 2005 and private servers. I know many people feel the same way.
OLD DAMAGE NUMBERS MUST COME BACK! NO PHASING ! PLEASE LISTEN BLIZZARD
do you not read? I've boycotted for almost 5 years you doofus. I'm also currently unsubbed and have been for 2 months, i tried bfa and quit immediately.
/shrug saw 120, thought you might’ve still had an active sub.
Unironically, good for you though. So many posers hoot and yell about quitting if X change doesn’t happen but never actually commit, which dampens the impact of those who do vote with their wallets. Wish more players would stick to their guns like you have.
I've wished the same for a while, but most people are NPCs. Thats why people with a brain need to yell rather than ask politely.
??? no reason to freak out when theres phasing in classic and new damage numbers? those things alone will make it so I never buy a game from blizzard ever again.
It’s a demo of a game that’s not even yet in beta. If you seriously think that this is 100% accurate representation of what will be released, I don’t know what to say.
Why would go to the effort of replacing the battle text in the demo when they could have just used the original battle text they already had?
11/02/2018 03:46 PMPosted by
Joynal
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It’s a demo of a game that’s not even yet in beta. If you seriously think that this is 100% accurate representation of what will be released, I don’t know what to say.
Why would go to the effort of replacing the battle text in the demo when they could have just used the original battle text they already had?
They DON'T have the original battle text anymore. That's why this is such an undertaking for them: No one saved off the final, or original, vanilla or xpac builds. The only difference between this and any private sever is that the company name is attached this time.
11/02/2018 03:46 PMPosted by
Joynal
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Why would go to the effort of replacing the battle text in the demo when they could have just used the original battle text they already had?
They DON'T have the original battle text anymore. That's why this is such an undertaking for them: No one saved off the final, or original, vanilla or xpac builds. The only difference between this and any private sever is that the company name is attached this time.
I can't even express how ignorant this statement was.
??? no reason to freak out when theres phasing in classic and new damage numbers? those things alone will make it so I never buy a game from blizzard ever again.
It’s a demo of a game that’s not even yet in beta. If you seriously think that this is 100% accurate representation of what will be released, I don’t know what to say.
Yes. The game is coming out in summer of 2019. This is how its going to be.
dmg is off, it looks like movement speed is also legion and this means faster than it should be. spellcrit is bugged, droprates are bugged and so on.
It took longer to lvl in BC and that was when they nerfed all classic content by 30%.
This looks an awefull lot like a WOTLK server. Maybe it is.
Lets just hope they backpaddel on this stuff asap and try to dmg control this right now, or classic will flop hard.
Private servers literally had to guess on adjusted values to get things to work properly, so, I guess people are just used to the private server experience.
The numbers wern't 100% correct on Private servers, nost and the like even admitted that they had to guess on a good number of values to get it as close as possible since they were borked.
People I'm afraid are going to be feeling a bit different playing this than private servers, since they're more used to the adjusted tuning from private servers.
Private servers literally had to guess on adjusted values to get things to work properly, so, I guess people are just used to the private server experience.
The numbers wern't 100% correct on Private servers, nost and the like even admitted that they had to guess on a good number of values to get it as close as possible since they were borked.
People I'm afraid are going to be feeling a bit different playing this than private servers, since they're more used to the adjusted tuning from private servers.
idiotic statement, private servers were closer to classic than blizzard's demo will ever be.
What exactly is the difference with the combat text?
new text is tiny and reacts differently. old text "popped" more, it was much bigger and more clear, and crits popped way bigger than white hits. Just look at a pvp video from old wow then retail and ull notice it right away.
The combat system is a major, major part of vanilla.
people are face rolling content in westfall and not dying.
No "misses" in combat due to low/no weapon skill.
Nobody is arguing that it isn’t important! My entire point is that such a complex change could easily take more time than they had to get the demo ready, especially with the team being as tiny as it is.
If they confirm that it isn’t getting fixed or stay silent, by all means get angry. We haven’t reached that point yet.
Then just what are they demo'ing if it's not wow:classic ?
Some mutant combination of skills/gear/stats from all various expansions mixed up for players to play with ?
Rogues are regen'ing energy with miss, dodge, parry.
Rogues can build up 5 combo points on target 1 and then blow up target 2 with the cp stats.
Hunters get put into combat when they issue the attack command on their pet.
What expansion did any of that ever exist in ?
This is literally what actiblizz said they were doing in the watercooler ages ago.
They put the vanilla data into their existing system.
As someone who understands system development, the demo is the prototype. It will receive changes. I can understand some passionate people who really want the vanilla experience but you have to be patient.
Still, keep communicating the changes to the existing system and participate in the alpha/beta and give feedback. Just try not being so angry and dramatic.
this is coming from someone who played on classic private servers for 4-5 years and cleared naxx 15/15 many times on many classes.
game feels way easier, just !@#$ stomping on everything xD
new gen retail combat text which is FAR worse than original, the original damage number system felt 10x better personally and is a big thing that bothers me about the new game
phasing - I actually cant believe this is even a thing for classic
these 3 things alone i noticed after my first hour of playing, and it made me log off with a pretty bad feeling in my stomach. im sure theres more, but these are major red flags for me.
You played on private servers and youre apparently supposed to use that as some kind of clout? Get the f outta here
Pservers are not Vanilla lol.
Haven't seen the demo yet, but I am suspecting that it isnt close to their final product.
They have the numbers and values from Vanilla, but that doesnt mean that they are fully implemented in the demo build. Hell if they still have lfd/lfr tab and they stated they haven't had time to remove it...I just dint know what to tell people.
Sharding is one issue I will fight against. They managed without it in Vanilla, and they have far superior hardware now. Pony up Blizzard and have more servers ready.
In my opinion, turning off the extremely closed-minded players who would leave because of font not being the same could very well be the best thing that happens from this demo.
11/02/2018 02:14 PMPosted by
Skyharp
Classic pservers have always had completely incorrect values on everything.
You're correct that they were off, heck regarding raiding and how raid damage can scale they were way off, but here's the rub.
The private servers are presently closer to Vanilla than Classic WoW demo; not just by a little either..
I am willing to cut them some slack because after all its a demo, but Sharding..... IMO they should have just had enough servers or limited the number of people who could play with a Q.
The UI is presently excusable, but the mana regeneration and scaling of abilities, and just the general pace of things is WAY off, so far off that it feels like Wrath or Panda or something..
Sure that's a massive improvement over modern WoW, but we're here for CLASSIC aka Vanilla WoW, and I personally am interested because its suppose to be Authentically Vanilla WoW, presently the demo is just........... well its like a mish mash of WoW over the years with a Classic WoW coat of paint..
I'd be 100% OK with that if they came out and said "Hey look guys, we're not even close to done, this is the best we can do on such short notice; the end result is a 100% pure authentic "Vanilla" game experience"
That I would be just happy as heck with, but it had by God better be as authentic as possible or there's just no point in even doing the project because the tourists who are merely here to play just because of the old zones are not going to stick around long simply because they are "Content Consumers", they're not here typically for the game play, these same people come and go with each and every new WoW expansion since Cataclysm, and then they wash out with the tide; this is why Blizzard has a little surge in activity every now and then with the expansion / content updates.
Classic WoW's not that; don't treat it that way Blizzard.
Thanks.
The combat system is a major, major part of vanilla.
people are face rolling content in westfall and not dying.
No "misses" in combat due to low/no weapon skill.
Nobody is arguing that it isn’t important! My entire point is that such a complex change could easily take more time than they had to get the demo ready, especially with the team being as tiny as it is.
If they confirm that it isn’t getting fixed or stay silent, by all means get angry. We haven’t reached that point yet.
If now isn't the point to voice our concerns, when is? Presumably they want feedback from the demo, right?