So lore freaks, lets do some clean up on aisle WoW

Again, they r-word-ed WoD and they are doing the same with SL. Cut content should never been acceptable. Either tell the WHOLE story or don’t tell the story.

Maybe BFA and SL would not be as absolute terrible if both expansions were not butchered to appease their corporate overlords.

Blizzard painted themselves in this corner…not the playerbase. They have to fix this or they will Blockbuster themselves out of existence.

Presumably they won’t. At the very least they have said we will get some sort of epilogue for what happened to the night elves. We are one month away from the next expansion, so lets see what they do.

Oh Zerde, ever the white knight for Blizzard, putting clean sheets over the garbage won’t remove the stink.

There’s lots of ways to do it. I mean we already went to an AU Draenors so it’s hardly out of the realm of impossibility.

As I mentioned they likely wont retcon anything, so best hope is to actually get some resolution. Or you can just remain bitter about it until the end of WoW.

And the blank slate might just be enough. Of course hardly anyone here trusts enough to ensure what comes from that blank slate might be good, but there is still a hope that going forward they’ve changed direction. By in large, the same people who brought us Legion are still there. Those who did the on the ground questing in BFA are still there. Zone designers and artists who did Shadowlands are still there. Overall, the skill and want to put out quality work is there. The question is if the powers that be will allow it to be put together cohesively in a way that we can just move forward and forget about the past 4 years, essentially.

People moved on from WOD pretty quick. Minus an updated arena map, Ashran Brawl, and some nice looking armor sets, its pretty well forgotten overshadowed by Legion. Its possible, its just waiting to see what happens

Shadowlands won’t be retconned out of existence. How do I know that? Because it’s an expansion revolving around Sylvanas.

Retcon everything back to the end of WC3: Frozen Throne. No factions, no decades of MMO limitation creep.

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The thing with Warlords though is that - while it did muck up some things, like making the orcs inherently bloodthirsty without Legion magic - it didn’t really hold a ton of consequence to the world as a whole. Shadowlands, on the other hand, does. We now have a deep understanding of how the afterlife works (as does the commonfolk if Ol’ Emma can just waltz right in), and given what we’ve seen, it should positively MORTIFY us.

There is zero reason to turn to anything other than pure nihilism if you know that the nightmare that is the Shadowlands is waiting for us after death. You don’t get to rest - you get put to work again, probably away from your loved ones, and it’s very possible you’re going to die again at some point and just be rendered nonexistant. We cannot move on from that knowing that this is now an ingrained part of how the universe works.

And as for “waiting and seeing” - Blizzard has told us several times to do that about Shadowlands, and this is what it all amounted to. We waited for upwards of four years for some crumb of resolution, and to even call what we got that would be generous. And given how Shadowlands ended with a weird and cryptic warning of an even bigger bad on the horizon, it sounds like they intend to just keep jerking us along.

“Wait and see” is earned, and they have most certainly not earned it. Even with Legion under their belt, I do not trust them with a blank slate given just how monumentally terrible their latest story is.

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Considering a universe worth of souls, the vast majority of people will never get sent to the covenants. Even those that do have the option to ‘retire’ eventually as stated by Draka.

The worse thing would be that now people can worry about the afterlife being randomly invaded by devourers and their revered ancestors or older family members going poof in the time it takes a response to form.

While true that most people likely won’t get into the four Covenants we encountered, we’re told that there are countless afterlives - ones we can assume are similar. One that was cited is Craftenium, an afterlife where craftsmen apparently go. Presumably to continue crafting things. I’m good at my trade, but that doesn’t mean I want to keep doing it once I’m dead.

So even if they don’t end up in the four main afterlives, the likelihood is that whatever afterlife they end up in won’t be any better, and it’s still very likely that they’ll be separated from their loved ones. Retirement eventually doesn’t really make that any better - I’d have thought retirement would be… y’know… dying, but I guess you gotta run the gauntlet of Life 2. And if you die this time, it’s just over entirely.

There isn’t really a way to spin this that isn’t a horror show.

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:slight_smile: guess no one is actually reading posts, just replying with their opinion to the OP / now we know what’s wrong with the world