I just wanna pipe back in and say that this here is fantastic and something we can all learn this practice from time to time. Kudos!
5 Likes
You’re right, Shay, but people like Faltherin and Gotosh have already been eloquent and I’m not sure I have more to add.
Stay safe. Live well. It’s been wonderful to have you here, and someday I hope this will a place you want to come back to.
7 Likes
A community, especially one as diverse and large as Wyrmrest Accord, is made up of people. Individuals.
Individuals can change. I still find WRA in general to be an overwhelmingly positive place to me. I hope to change my own course enough to make the forums a better place to be too. 
I hope we can prove you wrong in time, Echelon, and person by person, become a more positive, enthusiastic, united, and welcoming community. At the very least I’m making a personal commitment to be a better part of it.
3 Likes
I havent seen this thread and I hope I don’t (and if sounded like I was saying she was wrong, I wasn’t sorry if that came off that way, unless your commenting on other people)
Because if I am honest, this post she made I’ve actually considered making myself once. But I can never bring myself to do such a thing, because I fear the reactions of those who just like to be mean.
Everyone is so negative about every single thing, and its this attempt to try and bring people down with them. Because if -this person- is having fun, I need to let them know how awful things are. So they can stop enjoying it, and I have to be the one to make sure we’re ALL miserable.
It’s exhausting. It’s actually, literally, unhealthy. For the person doing this and the person reading it.
Its time people ignore obvious attempts at derailing. Because sometimes, you just have to let people be stupid. Go respond to the threads that have innocent questions, ideas and events. Go support young ones entering this universe and provide safety. Just be…a good person!!
And leave trade chat in game.
10 Likes
What I said was not an attack, nor should it be perceived as such.
OP complains on the state of the realm.
I explained how it came to be.
I have nothing against OP, but it speaks volumes that my points are taken as antagonistic when they only confirm what OP already said.
I lament OP taking their leave. I never met them. And I hope them well.
Not enough good people are speaking up. Not enough good people backing speakers up.
1 Like
Alright, then my apologies for perceiving it as such.
I’ve fallen prey to the exact issue I’m here to fight against. That’s my bad and I’m sincerely sorry.
1 Like
I do want to say something, as throughout my journey on Wyrmrest Accord i’ve seen you around on the forums, though I haven’t been active on them for as long or as often as you have.
I also want to sleep. I’ll post it later; hopefully you’ll be around by then still.
1 Like
Much as I hate myself to say it, I seem to be incapable of really going “the distance of Depression” if you catch my drift.
So, like it or not, I’ll always be here. Supporting silently.
1 Like
This is not and will never be a bad thing, and I’m very relieved to hear you say it.
1 Like
I felt that when I first came here, honestly. I felt it was perceived as a bit of a sin to be enjoying BFA, to find the War of Thorns prepatch highly enjoyable to play through, and very interesting from a story perspective. (Admittedly I was posting on the forums since mid Legion but BFA is when I felt it the most)
I don’t think people mean to come across that way, but I agree that it can be pretty hostile sometimes, when people are just coming here saying “I really enjoyed this story” they can be accused of genocidal tendencies and all sorts of things. It’s not ideal.
Hopefully we can make this a place again where people who love WoW want to come here and chat about it - even if they disagree. Like, some people love the game but hate the way the story’s gone. But ideally we can agree or disagree happily and welcome other viewpoints. Just with a generally positive attitude.
(Sorry for the edits, added a clarification under my first paragraph, and fixed a few grammar things)
5 Likes
I realize its likely impossible, but I dream of a day when people actually see each other as human beings, with feels and whatnot, even if they’re keyboards, countries, half a world away.
That’s probably too sentimental for a video-game forum though.
How sad is that?
highly likely i’m aging myself here but I remember when being a “gamer” wasn’t…cool. It was a reason to get your life torn apart in school.
We all used to come together over a common hobby and really expressed ourselves.
That was neat. The bond, I mean. I hope it can get back to that at some point. I will say for sure, there are groups on this server who still have that. I’m just sad to see our server’s forums take such a sad route.
11 Likes
That’s why I try to make sure my posts are measured and that they’ll have a net positive effect on the threads they’re posted in. The posts don’t always have to be positive per se, but if they’re not I sure as heck want them to be productive.
4 Likes
Safe travels Shay.
“Support the Non-RPers”
Old timey that one.
1 Like
That’s the thing, we RP’d, but we didn’t make it the top of our list because it was at a time we enjoyed content.
The hate was unreasonable, but not entirely unexpected.
That thread was my first drama thread.
Anyway, that all happened before WrA took its “consent in RP” turn when it became a much more relaxed place. Before then, if someone broke the immersion with non-RP names or even a Warcraft Sue MRP that was earnest and serious, it was on.
How did people even identify you as a non (or part time) RPer? I feel as if I wouldn’t know what non RPers are up to unless they were like, trolling OOC in the Mage District or Valley of Honour as some do. That’s what I get annoyed by. I’m not accusing you of that btw, I’m simply curious as to how it happened. The server sounds totally different now (I started playing here right at the start of MoP)
I’m really lucky I think. My first RP was without a profile, on my Pandaren mage. I walked up to a dwarf and showed him some magic tricks. Luckily some rando in whispers told me all about MRP and RP etiquette and got me started. In a funny way I owe everything to a random person whose name I don’t even remember, being kind to a silly noob who wanted to try RPing on a low level Pandaren mage.
I’d also never RPed in any other context and so I tended to write my characters a bit stupidly OP, like the heroic “adventurer”. Again something nice people helped me find my niche in, as I learned how RP actually worked.
1 Like
All good, I know things can sound sketch. We had a guild post through most of Cata since we needed heroics and raid folks. The GM at the time told applicants and inquiring players that we focused more on PvE / Raiding than RP, but we still had members that would RP on common enough occasions that folks wouldn’t be starved for it by joining.
Then it started /rolling/ downhill with people getting real nasty at us.
1 Like
That sounds awful, I’m sorry to hear you got picked on for it.
tldr… sorry
That sucks. Well Bye. Thanks for what you done.
Alright i’m up.
Due to my inactivity combined with my erratic commitment of posting and being active on the forums I don’t necessarily know the problem thoroughly or how endemic it was to everybody, but even with my casual attachment I could certainly feel the ‘air’ on how everybody treated one another within the forums, and I find it to be odd enough at best and downright internecine at worst.
I know I will never advocate for it, but it genuinely feels like some people are wandering around looking for posts and people to hammer into the ground; a virtual and self-appointed moral crusade in the earnest guise of whack a mole. Anything that can be taken the wrong way usually is, and those that wanted an honest dialogue have their entire motive and reason for staying on the forums uprooted as people dogpile them in a fictional crusade who’s only guise is to disparage someone for perceived aggression or slights.
Similarly enough, those that shouldn’t be given attention often are, and i’m also someone who’s done this, but the people who are inherently trolls and come to the forums looking to stir the pot are given a bunch of attention in similar form. Justified now? Yes; of course, but it quickly feeds from being something inherently good to something vacuous as you’re just ingratiating those types of people with attention that they so desire.
It feels like unintentionally the server-side of things have fostered some type of floozie who only trades in the idea of pushing people down to highlight themselves. And although the snark isn’t actively in anyone’s face anymore – it’s certainly there. And it’s felt. Considerably. Which I find to be a more assiduous form that leads the decline of a community as people already will hold opinions of those who they’ve never interacted before, and often in the negative. Perhaps this is the reason why friend groups are so paramount. And also, perhaps it’s the reason why community events have dwindled to nothingness outside of a few randoms and the STV Bash. You can defend yourself against the aggression and irascible nature of somebody who doesn’t like the way you RP or act, but you can’t really defend yourself against the ideas floating around that are parasitical. ‘X did this!’ ‘Oh, I heard X was doing something pretty bad.’ ‘X doesn’t necessarily do good RP.’ Barebones, but you get my point. And, fulminating, it just ends up not being worth the time roleplaying when you’re constantly feeling like you’re walking around like Atlas. And eventually all it takes is one more feather on the camel’s back to irreparably break it.
5 Likes