Wasn’t it the other one who showed the Sha bit? The Night Elf (I think) who objected to it that was the one showing Sha corruption of despair?
Darnassus was the capital city of the night elves, the military bulk of the entire night elf population was moved to a different place, which was what made the campaign through ashenvale and darkshore for the horde possible.
I’m not sure what is considered genocide, but, the burning of Teldrassil targeted civillians, without giving them time to escape, with the sole purpose of scoring a high kill count.
Since Blizzard doesn’t give population numbers, it could be thousands or millions of night elves living there, but it was entirely made of Civillians, they managed to evacuate a small proportion of them that are now living homeless in Stormwind as refugees.
Darnassus was more than just ‘hey, here’s where the military is sleeping’. It was the center of Night Elf (and, by extension) Alliance power on the entire continent. Not only was it a major governmental center, but it was the logistical heart of the Alliance on Kalimdor, as well as the home base of both the Night Elf army and fleet. That makes it a legitimate strategic target.
I mean. They felt really really bad. Horde has the get outta jail free card of ‘muh honor’. They slaughtered women and children and effectively ended an entire civilization by their own voluntary participation. But. They felt bad about it after.
Come now, the Nightelves (while I do like them), have always been a major threat to the Horde, and specifically the Orc. Their continuous attempts at cutting off the Orcs in Orgrimmar from vital resources in Ashenvale as they didn’t wanna share (they started this in Wc3 actually, and it is what had gotten their demigod axed) has always been a major survival threat to the Horde’s capital of Orgrimmar.
The Nightelves hostility against the horde never stopped ever since, therefor their capital city never stopped being a military target.
They should’ve known that if you try to starve the Orc, you get the axe, (or well, Orcish demolisher fire in this case).
Yes! We are now at peace with the help of our boy king Anduin.
I wonder, if Stormwind was slaughtered instead of Teldrassil would things be different…
Well, you’re not wrong.
Is the same as saying “Orgrimmar is the center of operations of the Horde and its main presence on Kalimdor, therefore flooding it is a legit war strategy”.
And even then, considering on war terms, the “original” plan, was a much more valid strategy, holding the civillians hostage and forcing the Alliance to dismantle itself instead of killing all the civillians, having nothing to bargain, and just pushing the Alliance into a full scale war, which made the Horde sacrifice their own space on the Easter Kingdoms.
As far as I know, they had a somewhat healthy trade of resources that were undermined by Twilight Hammer cultists and then completely destroyed by Garrosh, but i could be wrong there.
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Putting the orcs into camps, as opposed to exterminating them.
Lets not forget that they did that because they had specific orders to leave no witnesses to their assassination attempt.
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Yeah totally not the alliance the burned their way through Brill, beat back the horde forces, breached undercity, and forced the horde into a full retreat. That was clearly not Alliance doing anything, it was all Sylvanas.
Gtatz on 57. Now get back to leveling.
The Night Elves put a huge Civilian Population on top of a Legitimate Military Target. They are the ones to blame.
Indeed, and Jaina flooding Orgrimmar would have definitely been a legitimate target, especially after the bombing of Theramore. It would have been horrible, but war is horrible by its very nature. The ‘best’ war is one where you destroy your enemy so swiftly and so utterly that they cannot counter your attack, and are reduced to a point where they will never again be a threat. Most wars are just varying shades of godawful.
And yes, the ‘original’ plan would have been better, strategically, for the Horde. However, it should be noted that the only reason the Battle for Lordaeron didn’t end in a crushing defeat and a decapitation of the Alliance leadership was because Jaina chose that moment to show up in her magic boat. Without Jaina, the Alliance would have been effectively ruined, and even if things ended right there, recovery would have taken a long time.
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You’re not wrong. I guess it depends on how much you’re willing to go to eliminate your enemy, and your sense of “honor”. Of course, we having outside knowledge know how Sylvanas did all of that just to increase the number of deaths to send to the maw, but another would be the view of a Horde or Alliance character inside the world.
It reminds me of a manga, where the population of a town is made hostage by an enemy, and the government send an special agent to solve the problem, the special agent makes himself hostage, and kills all the other hostages so the town has no reason to not attack the enemy anymore.
Yeah but the Alliances intention was to reclaim Lordaeron and capture the Warchief. Slyvie is the one who went full psychopath and gassed her own troops before blowing up the Undercity to try and kill the Alliance leaders.
Also remember that Undercity would of never happened in the first place if Sylvanas didn’t torch Teldrassil. So yeah, it’s quite literally all her fault.
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the rebellion only won because it helped blizzard a scapegoat for the horde by having sylvanas to leave. if blizzard didnt the rebellion would have lost easily.
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She used the blight on the Alliance who were killing the horde troops. You think they were not going to die from the Alliance troops? Also that would have stopped the Alliance until Jania flew in.
Teldrassil wouldn’t have happened if the Alliance hadn’t attacked the horde fleet in legion and tried to Assassinat her. Not to mention the only reason why the horde was able to successfully attack Teldrassil was because the NE sent their fleet to go after the horde fleet they though was heading towards SIlithus.
Not to mention a tree that size being burned by a some catapults is laughably bad.
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Nightborne looked at how humans treat the Alliance and decided joining wasn’t in their interests.
Hail the heroes of the horde who fought in Brennadam!!