So is it safe to say it now?

I don’t know that the prevalence of those classes is the problem, so much as the kinds of people who jump onto those classes, whether they’re OP or not.

I’m not sure this is something Blizz can fix, outside of finding some common thing those people also love, and ruining that intentionally.

They can fix it… With Balancing.

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Reduce damage and healing in pvp by 75% and boom it’s actually fun again. Matches shouldn’t be quick. 1 shots or any sub 3 second kills shouldn’t exist.

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Honestly, probably. I forgot it even existed except for the few times on Reddit I see someone posting about it, and even then it’s about how ridiculously unfun it is.

They should really just pack it up. This is a PVE game. The current devs have no interest in PvP. It’s definitely a weird side-game to the main game that virtually nobody even does because other games do it way better.

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For a side game though, it still mechanically, speed wise, etc is the best MMO PVP imo. If they could only learn to balance it. But you may be right.

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Hello, I see you replied to the thread. If you considering Destiny 2 an MMO, and many would, it technically has the best PvP! Unlike Blizzard though, Bungie actually tries to do something with it too! It’s not perfect, it has it’s issues, but yeah, at least they try! They even just released a huge blog post about changes coming:

https://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/article/lightfall-crucible-update

Blizzard hardly does anything, haha!

Thanks for your post and have a great day!

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I should have said… MMORPG

Outside of the current broken version of Ret it has been a mostly fun time.

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Hello, I see you replied to my post. Yes, Destiny is an RPG, haha!

Thanks for your post and have a great day!

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I agree. It FEELS the best to play, as far as buttons to hit and how it looks and feels on screen. Balancing wise, absolutely no. PvPers in every game are insanely toxic so I won’t count that in as a factor, but the balance is just all over the place. I think it’s probably impossible to have a PvP game mixed in with a PvE game. They should really just separate the two entirely into different games.

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It’s not really any different from PVERs.

Heck, if anything low keys are the most toxic form of content.

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Nowadays, you’re 100% correct. It’s just as bad.

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You may be right…

The lead lawyer dev doesnt care about pvp. He never has.

Its time to for the executives to remove him. Hes bad for business.

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I’m still enjoying it.

Pvp was fun

Rss opens up stuff and gearing is super nice.

DH isnt that bad. Rets are good for once. Disc meta was aids to deal with as an opposing healer until nerfs.

I think pvp is allright. My only recommendation is to fix healer mmr gains in rss, tone down rating loses in rss, and open up some rewards to not be time limited.

Fixing rewards gets ppl to play if they can earn past things. Also earning half a mog only to never be able to complete it sucks

I don’t pvp cause I don’t want yelled at. I ain’t the best at it. I may try for 1800 in solo to get the xmog other than that that’s it.

It sure didn’t used to be like this. You could say whatever with very little repercussions.

i never understood why wow had to shove down our throats PvP mode. if you need PvP play league of legends or DOTA. or make it like ff14 , with generic abilities , boring and no OP elements

I spent my younger days wpvp on severe lopsided servers fun times it can’t be all that dead considering in the worst expansion ever you claim tons did it gearing even pve players but keep saying dead. Theres a lot doing solo shuffle and I still see people logging in everyday to do what bg’s.

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