So how exactly is GDKP banned?

I am sure, but i dont sling insults until insulted.

Our debate was fine until then and you know it.

I feel like you also missed me saying “Dual spec self driving trucks”

I felt it was creative.

Nah, I’m not a troll. I just refuse to accept any of your aRGuMeNTs because they’re all trash. You make claims about seeing RMT advertisement in chat channels because you’re a liar and you want so desperately to be right or to dEStrOy someone on the forums while clinging to that stupid fantasy because you think it’ll lend you some credibility but everyone knows what you’re about.

RMT. That’s you. You’re completely fine ruining our experience because you don’t have time to play an MMO.

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I mean i havent done a gdkp since like wotlk…

I play 1 toon in a raid in cata…in hunks, a guild i have been in since wotlk launched…

You know all this.

but youre looking at each raid as an individual system when they are not. its not one item went for 60k and another went for 5k. its 2 items went for 65k or 32.5k average over the course of week in your sample size. which then you would compare week to week and adjust for normal gold inflation by legitimate player farming. any extra is of illicit means.

and going further it possible as servers age the inflation will eventually go down because demand goes down due to a finite pool of raiders. which dwindling population is a separate issue. my arguments against gdkp are for growing/healthy realms. ill use fresh as the example because its the most relevant. The 1 year nature of the classic portion of fresh creates a hard limit on supply of BoP items. there are literally not enough lock outs to supply the servers warriors with BiS gear for any phase. so, it becomes a bidding war in a gdkp system which in turn incentivizing RMT due to the created market. without gdkp it becomes largely luck based (or in system manipulation in say loot council) which love it or lump it is the original journey focused design philosophy the developers gravitate towards. which beyond the obvious reason of blizzard not getting their cut is a reason devs would be against gdkp.

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You just admitting to having such a sad life you can afford hours and hours every day online.

Give me a second to see if I can find an ounce of concern what an RMT cheater thinks of me.

Nah. Can’t find one.

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Actual loser.

So because you have a lot of disposable time, due to essentially contributing nothing irl, other game modes that suit those who are time-poor or can’t commit to a schedule should be banished.

Dog you buy gold in a video game. The same video game that I play is the one you play. This doesn’t pack the punch you seem to think it does LMAO

Crying your eyeballs out because you want to cheat because you dONt hAvE tiMe tO pLaY is hilarious. Keep doing it please.

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The only reason i even like gdkps is when content gets harder, which wont happen in fresh, not until porlly pre nerf Vashj.

Pugging is god awful without gdkps, the players just arent good.

Organized gdkp discords vet everyone and full clear better than most raid groups, so if i make an alt id do gdkps as my pug system over anything in trade chat.

That being said gdkps dont need to be on fresh, i will just play 1 toon in my guild and not ever pug.

I mean its because their is no real set pattern to things, you could have an item that you think doesnt sell and 5 ppl are their to bid on it.

Then in another raid a hot ticket trinket goes for min bid lol.

Id hate to say that the gold in gdkps is essentially a closed system even tho it technically isnt but thats basically how it goes.

Consumes are generally pennies compared to what people make, hell Cata raids literally give you more gold from killing hte raid bosses as your split than you will ever pay in consumes.

Full clearing t11 heroic 13/13 i was making 1400g/week and spending around 600 on consumes a week and thats because i brought all the fish feasts.

But I don’t buy gold, what don’t you get?

X for doubt

(X)

Even if you didn’t (you do) you play with people who do and happily slurp up that illicit gold and completely ruin the game for everyone else and you couldn’t care less.

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Please explain how people buying gold ruins your experience?

No. I don’t have any interest in trying to convince you. I only care that you’re mad. You are. That’s enough for me.

I’m not mad, I understand the type of degenerate loser I’m talking to and just feel sorry for you tbh.

Not the kind of degenerate loser who pays real money to third world gold farmers.

Cool, I despise you. I enjoy seeing you so upset.

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Spending as much time as I gather you do online, and buying online currency in the game, are equally sad fyi.

I mean i agree pugs are firetrucking awful. i was in an onyxia 40man pug raid in SoD like 5 weeks ago for reals. i poop you not 16 people died to the first guaranteed positioned deep breath.

but beyond the economic issue i dont think gdkp helps that situation either. in a pug gdkp the people being carried arent being subject to or learning from the consequences of poor play. i think its a net negative on the game. but then again i could be wrong due to just the social dynamics of the player mindset with people just quitting rather than facing “difficult” challenges

and to be fair i dont hate gdkp as a system. if RMT didnt exists (and yes devs/publisher are not doing enough) id be 100% ok with it. The close system gdkp that youve participated in the past where the players remain largely the same is fine. it’s the large scale adoption and basically commercialization of it i have a problem with.

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Underperformers get docked and also assisted technically with strats etc, at least in my opinion. Other raids will just kick and replace. GDKPs try to avoid that because it makes distributing cuts awkward etc.

I think trade chat gdkps are just as bad.

I only do organized discord gdkps done by guilds i trust.

You perform or you get kicked.

You mess up in the organized gdkps im in you get a pass but you keep dying you just get removed and your cut goes to your replacement.