The BEs and Nightborne have history with the WotA, so trying to pretend they weren’t there to make a point about the aspects only working for the night elves is idiotic. They are tied to the WotA completely and the nightborne were sealed in their bubble because of that.
Tauren are in the emerald dream because Ysera as the guardian of it allows it. The emerald dream is entirely neutral as is Ysera, even if she has ties with the night elves, these are neutral things not night elf exclusive things in wow. You can say “it has a night elf vibe” but the emerald dream itself wasn’t designed with the night elves in mind it was made by the titans, and the night elves revere nature. So you would be saying “anything nature related has a night elf feeling to it”.
That’s also entirely irrelevant to her being neutral. In WoW she’s never only specifically helped the night elves when she came back in Cata (where she worked more with Thrall than with the night elves). Ysera is not a night elf character, and all her lore is not night elf lore.
Here she is not interacting with the night elves, she is in the afterlife that doesn’t even really have any night elf characters in it yet from what we’ve seen. Her story is a neutral story, and Ardenweald is not a night elf zone.
Yeah, they can be completely wrong about her (just as Velen was), but they still worship her and she is still part of Tauren lore regardless. Elune is more tied to the night elves, but that doesn’t mean everything she does is only related to the night elves.
What! there is nothing stating Mldraxxus is inherently “evil”, so much as it is just the way that particular zone functions. Heck, we have both Krennan and Morgraine in that particular zone telling me the people there can be honorable or they can be honorless.
As oppose to outright betrayal in Revendreth or the questionable methods of the Kyrian or the fact the Winter Queen is literally playing god and deciding which spirit gets to be reborn and which have to be sacrificed?
Nope. according to lore the statue inside that temple was that of Haideen, Tyrande’s old mentor and predecessor as Church head back in her Suramar days. It was a deliberate modern construction, most likely on Tyrande’s orders while the Druids designed the rest.
So… I hope y’all don’t mind me asking my question here even though it’s a little out of topic.
Is the Night Fae campaign lore as awesome as it sounds? I’m more into other covenants but I kinda want to see this campaign play out. I’m not sure I want to level two different covenants.
How does that disprove the theory that the art team wasn’t up to speed on the whole “Night Elves abandoned stone for wood” idea? Or prove that the temple structure wasn’t built with stone salvaged from the ruins, as Kaileath suggested?
Does the lore say that Tyrande had the statue made after she moved to Darnassus? She is very old, after all. Could it be an old statue that was simply relocated there?
Or maybe the whole idea that the NEs abandoned stone construction was a retcon that was put in the game after Darnassus was already coded?
I got more of a druidic/nature/fae vibe than a ‘Night Elf’ vibe. While night elves have that theme primarily, I didn’t even feel it was very fitting to my character and she IS a Night Elf.
Ysera might skew a little on the Night Elf story theme where her death happened in Val’sharah at the Temple of the Moon and her connection to the Kaldorei, but anything outside of that didn’t feel Night Elven at all.
Both those things are underground, though, so wood doesn’t exactly make sense. And druid dens look like they might even be modified natural caverns, or at least, “encouraged” caverns.
In my experience, a lot of Nelf players really want some non-druid nelf content. It seems whenever Night Elves get any content, 9 times out of 10 it is Druid related. Which is fine, I like druid stuff, but Nelves are not defined by druidism, and I would argue the Sisterhood and Elune is a more vital aspect of Kaldorei identity and culture (Even though Blizzard is diluting that by making Elune relevant to other races as well, I would rather Elune remain uniquely Kaldorei aligned).
Given that, Ardenweald is still in a “Schrodinger’s Nelf Zone” phase. It certainly has some Elune flavors, such as eternal night, and the starry themes. The fact that Elune seemed to be the one who ferried Ysera to Ardenweald is significant too. However, I am hesitant to call it a Nelf zone until we really understand that relationship.
I actually thought you refered to real life. In regards to wow…
I’d say the Humans have a better track record when it comes to nature. Especially if you consider gilneans human.
Unfortunately that would require a lot of time and who knows if Blizzard has the skills or interest to do so, one thing I appreciate about Clone Wars was making Ahsoka from a horrible character into something very decent with perseverance and trial and fail.
Baine for all his faults, he is never called out and so you don’t give a real chance to grow up and own his error and just damaging even further the character(same with Anduin)
Ok so are you pretending “never happened as I didn’t see them”
That’s exactly a very good point of view
What about killing exiles Zandalaris in Vol’dun, trading weapons and having a human captain giving her crew to blood troll to be sacrificed to gain power and no comment about the Drust backstory?
I could go on with lots of modern quest but I think you get my point and I disagree heavily that those quest can “avoided” as are needed to advance in the plot. Now if you level through dungeons and pretend stuff didn’t happen it’s ok but don’t try to come as “I like them because are heroes always”
Literally this IP never tried neither of those and this is why the game is so crap currently because you can’t go very far when the devs thinks continuity only ties the hands of their writers and this actually makes me question of your own immersion in this game
They tried for 2 years convince the playerbase didn’t learn from MoP and the 8.1 was the revenge the Nelves were waiting for. If that wasn’t Gaslighting, then you need to look the word at the dictionary
I do know a lot and you can find them on internet discussions how the Alliance is better because they’ve the moral high ground on their side and frankly Blizzard also aims to them or else they wouldn’t make the Horde do something black to justify the Alliance going aggressive at the current storyline they’re focusing in.
Lots of people wants a Yrel and Turalyon vs the Horde storyline
Honestly I think the game has enough elf races and we need more variety. The ethereals and these new energy people are a good example that Blizzard still can create variety
Nah just people complaining they didn’t get all the cake to eat, the horde player fought in Argus with Alleria and Turalyon and were happy to jump to murder more horde and torture civilians
They’re just wood elves with player 2 skin, savage and unpredictable but fight for nature, that’s all their shtick
Literally even names are straight up stolen from Warhammer, best example is “Grom”
Ok I see what you mean now and I can understand choosing the “lesser evil” because of your taste and how the game is being drive with making the Horde evil cause of biased writing. However I still think the Horde is less evil as the morality reprensive quests are called out by other npc while the Alliance story is heavily filled with propaganda to the point even burning babies will be excused and white-washed with mental gymnastic from both in-game and meta
Oh, I can agree. Being ‘forced’ to do quests where my character (who hates all, and any types of torture) has to inflict pain on someone to get information out of, makes me want to be sick. Naturally, i didn’t quest in Amber Ledge at all, and went to Grizzly Hills instead. I didn’t remember anyone like that in Cata except for the Hyjal quest where you ‘can’ kill the harpy. I just let her go. I’m really glad that that was an option MoP I don’t remember anything bad, so I guess those quests were ok?
(And speaking of morally awful quests, there’s one in Dragonblight (?) where you are sent to kill Forsaken who got themselves captured, just because they managed to get captured. I really wish there was an option to free them, and the option to tell the questgiver to go away, and go torment someone else)
It makes sense that it was since the statue would not have been made while Haideen was alive. (That kind of vanity was not how she rolled.) It also makes sense that Tyrande had it and the temple made of stone because that is the form of an Elunite temple as opposed to where a Druid would hang their antlers. Every Elunite temple that we’ve seen in lore or the game was made of stone, so presumably this one was made following customs. Maybe the Druids actually transported the stone through Teldrassil in the same way Merlin is supposed to have done with Stonehenge.