That’s not the only thing. Anohter is, that there is nothing for The Other Side. Only an entrance in a tree. That’s sad for Trolls.
One of the first NPCs you meet while questing is a troll though. So there’s that.
And that’s a big mistake in my view. He is a wolf and not part of the Other Side.
He should’ve been an Orc who became a wolf. Would make much more sense, and Ardenweald would be a good Afterlife from orcs to go.
All trolls should go to the Other Side, no matter what tribe they’re from. Zul’jin should’ve been there too, but apparently he’s ‘evil’ somehow
Don’t orcs have normally a destructive attitude towards nature?
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I agree they could’ve expanded on De Other Side more, but thats more blizzard dropping the ball than anything else.
Ardenweald is still a lovely zone to quest in and fits a lot of races from a nature loving perspective
That’s Goblins, if at all.
Orcs are weird in this case. They should have something with their ancestors too. Isn’t it for Draeni weird too?
I agree with that, but perhaps there is more to this.
Maybe they’ll expand on it in future patches?
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Frostwolves: Never fought beside the old Horde.
Ysera: I would’ve fought for the night elves.
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Not really. Look into pre-2st war orc society, before the demon’s blood. They were less destructive towards nature than your average Azerothian sentient race. It’s more that the worst aspects of the worst orcs (and to a lesser extend most races) make it in-game in highly visible ways. You don’t call humans normally destructive towards nature, yet if you just focus on the worst things a human has done in a zone, they look pretty anti-nature.
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Out of curiosity does she say that? to my knowledge she just calls it terrible. And wasnt gonna interfer outside of that.
Yeah. She says it at the play in Ardenweald.
Wowpedia just says she is worried about tyrande.
Ysera: I could not aid the kaldorei when Teldrassil burned. I pray I can aid Tyrande before it is too late.
This implies that she would have if she could have, but she could not because she was dead.
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From what I understand, they’re kind of a pre-druidic society. They aren’t afraid to chop down a tree if needed, but if WoD is anything to go by, they generally seem to live in relatively harsher environments that might not afford them to opportunity to focus hard on balancing nature if it risks their own well-being. Especially when those trees are just as likely to kill you. I think their focus was less flora and more about fauna, especially wolves.
It doesn’t help that Blizzard wanted Cata’s conflicts to be about a resource war and there’s not really a way to make that look good when the orcs just recruited goblins while they neighbor a hyper-druidic race.
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I wouldn’t necessarily say pre-druidic. I feel like that implies druidism is a natural progression. It seems like druidism is somewhat uncommon. At least seems the Eredar and Orcs didn’t really have that.
Aid can come in a lot of forms outside fighting.
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Which anyone with common sense and no loyalty towards Sylvanas would do.
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It’s kinda how the classes came off to me where shaman is the most primitive caster while druidism seems like a more evolved “branch”, but I might just be looking at them wrong. The reason why I worded it that way was because, from what I’ve seen in WoW, druids tend to have this role where they’re stewards of nature that implies a degree of ownership and capable of commanding it, while orcs (in WoD) seemed like they were only tentatively at the top of their world’s food chain.
So what if it’s full of Night Elf themes? Maldraxxus is full of Forsaken themes. Bastion is full of Paladin/Human themes. Revendreth has those vampire people that the Horde are speculated to be getting at some point.
Do you think they’re going to cover every race/class combination out there? Get real… instead of fetishizing faction parity just enjoy it for what it is and get over yourself.
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I mean, on the world they lived on Nature is one of a thousand things that tries to Eat you. Or in the case of the Botani, tries to turn you into a parasitical host that zombie infects all your loved ones. Its not shocking that Orcs, especially those who forced to survive in certain regions like Tanaan Jungle and Gorgronde, have less reverence for “Nature”. Though, Orcs do have respect for the natural world. Just it manifests in more primal reverence for baseline elements.
As for Goblins. Nothing about Goblins state they hate nature, they just have no reason to revere it. Truly think about where Goblins come from historically, and you’ll realize why such a truly very young race is so focused “on the now” and materialistic. 3000 years of Slavery in Heavy Metal mines will do a lot to shape how you interact with the world and property once free. Not every race had benevolent Wild Gods to help shape their relationship with the natural world; and not every race had the luxury of such a kind beautiful vision of nature like the NEs.
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