I see I obviously hit a nerve by saying you don’t need buffs I dont see third by any means and whats third when the people in first or second set the bar 10 miles ahead of you like whose happy being in third when level of power is so off scaled almost s tier where in 3s when you have a pocket healer so you dont get screwed by every burst class in half a second almost any class could have you at half hp in a single stun and you think it’s so easy come on jump on it I play with a shadow priest who most of those 100s of games are with in 2s, you get the decent gear and trinkets for high burst damage like a claw without the help of a guild carry you checking my character out without even knowing the story anyone can get carried for a good portion of the stuff they have it’s easy when you got claws and drests for easy 120k bursts it’s hard for a shaman to get this stuff getting groups because of what my class is, it’s nearly impossible I’m even denied for m+ dungeons I’m over geared for and I’ve easily held top 5 dps in heroic nyalotha but because I’m a “shaman” they turn me down any person in current meta would pick a mage or warlock and probably a s-priest and balance druid over ele anyday shadow does good damage and balance has alot of utility just from affinity current rankings has both elemental and enhancement at low tier for raids under every caster besides balance druid and for healing in raids we are second to last just ahead of monk but because my character isnt some stacked god ele shaman and I cant climb effectively with the current gear I have that makes me a bad player against players with multiple corruptions drests and ilvl around 460 to 470s I mean look at rextroys prot video of him carrying himself to 2500 mmr in a day just by bubbling and landing an infinite star you dont even need to be good just have good gear I think making it as far as I have seems pretty good to me for my current gear you just attacked me because I had a different opinion and dont think you need more buffs or ever return to wotlk paladins which I mained back then