Either make it better than baseline titans grip to justify the talent point expenditure or make it a standard passive
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Easiest way is to just make it so fury can transmog 1handers.
Sadly, this feedback have been given since DF. I doubt it will change any time soon >_<
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Try since pre-Legion, lmao. In truth it opens a big can of worms that they don’t really want to deal with, even if it would be the easiest/best solution.
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SMF should just be a cosmetic option.
Also, forget pre-Legion. SMF has been a vestigial problem since Wrath.
Since DF?
Since cata bro.
Clearly it has been since before DF. Df is when they reintroduced it as a talent with the new talent system…
In fairness, it was not really an issue in Wrath or Cataclysm, which worked under very different talent layouts. MoP/WoD similarly had no opportunity cost, so the issue very rarely came up. The only real question was whether or not there were competitive 1h and 2h drops, which rarely was a factor because the people complaining are not typically top-end progression content players anyway and Mythic+ didn’t exist yet.
The issue became more widely popular once Legion effectively removed the ability to use 1hrs, not only practically through the artifact, but literally through changing all of the abilities to require a two-handed weapon.
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I’ve been playing SMF, because I tank main and already have 2x1h 528’s and have found its competitive with most melee. Now, its obviously gimped, because of the raw stat loss from 2h’s, that its tuned for a legendary - and losing the talent point you really could use elsewhere.
But, I think (as I’ve said before on these forums) it would be easiest to just have 1h weapons just “scale up.”
Y’know, have it be a passive that “as a master of all weapons” one handed weapons would scale so that a 528 1h would have the same damage and stats as a528 2h equiv. one - with the caviet that its attk speed was reduced also. Then, the rest of the math is the same. No talent point loss, no complicated formulas. Problem solved. All the zug zugs would be fine.
“as a master of all weapons”
Easy enough Call it “Blade Master”, giving Warriors access to warglaives (and possibly Daggers) with Classic style weapon specializations. Giving purpose to what weapons warriors choose over basic stat stick math.
I was wildly disappointed we didn’t get “Blade Master” as a Hero talent for arms/fury.
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Could go the Final Fantasy 5 Advance route and call it Gladiator - a class adept with heavy armor and all weapon types.
Hah, gladiator. Like that will ever happen.
tbh.
i feel like single minded fury and titans grip should just do the same damage. or SMF does somethign that makes up for the lesser stats of not DW 2h’s but keeps on or around the same level of titans grip. i personally like 2 one handers as fury but iv been told time and time again its not viable
It’s perfectly viable, it’s just not optimal. Still, we’re talking about a ~5% difference which is a lot smaller in practice than hardcore min/maxers on reddit/forums/discord might make it sound.
Unless you’re a serious race or push content competitor, the likelihood of the difference having any influence over your success/failure in any aspect of the game is extremely low.
tbh i wouldnt mind ditching cold steel, hot blood for it which is what i may do. im not worried about self healing unless that talent provdes a huge DPS increase or something
EDIT: actually im not sure what talent to ditch for it. cause i WANT to play SMF i prefer it
Without knowing what you’re playing right now, your best talents to drop for it are generally:
- Wrath & Fury (it’s bugged atm), Bloodborne (in single target), Sudden Death, Ashen Juggernaut, or a point in Vicious Contempt; roughly in that order.
hmm all right tahnk ya ill keep all this min mind
i simmed it.
i decided to yank the 1 point i use in vicious contempt. the damage comparison wasnt horrible so i went with that.
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