To keep the Social aspect of the game in check.
The simple solution to the LFD/Dungeon Finder debate is to lock the people you can group with to your server.
This keeps the social aspect of the game and the public image of a player in check.
What I mean by that is that you can’t be a dbag in the group or do things that are negative and get away with it without being labeled on the server and becoming known for this. With normal LFD where you could be grouped across any server this doesn’t work as well.
Just so I can be clear, allow the LFD/Dungeon finder tool as it was in Wrath, you get a badge, you get extra XP while leveling, you get teleported to the dungeons. All of the aspects can still hold the social aspect of the game if you lock the groupings to the server.
Will that possibly cause issues on some servers, perhaps. However no different then not having the function in place as you will always have to group within your own server.
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Idk, some people think tediously staring at the bulliten board is social
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I think with this plan, you could still use a LFD type of bulletin board and group with 2-3 other people and then queue up into the random dungeon finder tool. It would only find people on your server so its a win win.
Naw, just instead of hitting accept when the queue pops instead you have to enter text like the bot protection solutions on websites.
Please type “DPS LF daily heroic” to enter the dungeon. This way we are social.
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Well really it just needs to try to prioritize same realm first and if it can’t match same realm after a few minutes it goes cross realm.
It does need to be able to go cross realm eventually to function properly.
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The devs either:
A) Don’t play the game and think everyone just runs around near the dungeon looking for friends
or
B) Don’t want to / can’t commit the necessary resources to build and maintain a LFD process, and are using A as the scapegoat.
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The original RDF that was in WotLK as it was.
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It doesn’t need to cross realm ever.
There is zero reason to open it up cross realm.
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Sure there is, when it can’t find a group on your server.
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No. That isnt a solution. The solution is leave it as it was. Any of the other issues cam be resolved by other means.
Retail players can group and play together from cross server. How do i know this? Because i have met people while using RDF. Then talked to them in game, aftet the run. Then messaged them again at a later date. Ran some more stuff with them. All cross server.
Who cares if i meet someone from another server? The technology is at apoint now that we can ask, why do we need multiple servers? Make it one big server and then we wont have to see the stupid comments about server identity and other stupid server nonsense.
Until then. No comprimise. It worked before. We want to play it again.
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I believe a majority of players feel that this took away from the social aspect of the game. I tend to agree.
Of course you can. I see someone who ran away with a ZA GDKP pot all the time, hosting GDKPs that fill up. Saw someone who ninja’d stuff from Gruul getting BT and SWP loot. Too few people care enough, and people within each server are not aware of each other enough for anything to have consequences.
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And if they don’t had the random dungeon finder, what is your solution?
You have to find people on your own server to do things with right?
That is why the only solution is to keep it completely locked.
If you can’t find people so be it, its the same as if you were looking at a bulletin board or some other tool.
Well no if your server doesn’t have enough people to run the dungeon then you don’t run the dungeon. Which isn’t a solution and is far worse than running a cross realm dungeon.
Cross realm solves that.
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Which is why this isnt a solution at all. It doesnt help faerlina alliance or people from old blanchy, who are also players and deserve to see content.
And if they don’t had the random dungeon finder, what is your solution?
To unsub. Which I’ve done. When they bleed enough subs over this they’ll see reason.
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It isn’t about “technology” and who cares? It seems a majority of the current classic players care. Which is why it has become an issue to begin with.
Players feel based off of surveys and other things that the introduction of random dungeon finder took away from the social aspect of the game.
This is due to randomly getting grouped with people and having no consequences to your actions.
This is the entire reason there is a debate and discussion of the issue.
It seems based on polling data that you are in the minority by saying “its fine leave it how it is”
How much did you play back then?
What was the ongoing issue that keeps popping up on the back end of every expac? Replenishing the ranks.
Yep, getting a full raid group geared up and ready for that next content when your guild lost a few players.
Easy epic gearing was added to help but it didn’t make the issue any less of a problem.
Random Dungeon Finder got people back into the old content. This got alts and new recruits leveling and widened the pool for recruiting.
The social aspect of pugging and chatting isn’t the part of the game I am ever going to look for when I play. Being in a guild that is working new members into the vacancies needed to be filled or being that new recruit. That is a social aspect worth enjoying.
Not interested in Blizzard playing match maker. I am here for WotLK as close to the original as possible with the understanding that the old infrastructure isn’t possible. The game needed to change but RDF being removed is an ulterior motive.
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But you haven’t unsubbed.
everyone
yeah thats not gonna happen
Again, as I had indicated, there is zero downside to adding it and locking it to server only. It literally is the compromise. You can find people on your server and group up with, or guildies to group up with and queue up.
This keeps the server identity/social aspect locked to one server and also gives the original benefits.
If you are having issues finding groups without RDF locked to a server, i’m not sure what you think not having it in this form is going to hurt.