Teams working on a game like WoW are large and not everyone interacts. Believe it or not, not everyone even plays WoW.
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I think it’s specially hillarious how…a word causes said ‘‘team member’’ to be outraged but…killing things to get what they have is ok. Or all kinds of morably abhorent quests on wow.
Like killing people just to raise them as zombies, torturing for information, bashing people’s skulls in while they are half buried on the ground, the gnolls having HUMAN FACES as tents.
Oh also all the mentions of canibalism on trollish culture, the casual racism between races, the genocide, war, death, torment, and I didn’t even started with half of what big names like Garrosh, Arthas and Sylvanas did.
With all those varied levels of violence in this game. THIS WORD is what bothers them? It shows how much their priorities are not right.
Like if you start an expansion with genocide, like, nearly wipping an entire race out just because someone hurt Sylvanas’s feefees, a bad word should be the least of your concerns here.
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I don’t think it is weird that every team member doesn’t know every word of dialogue. And we’ve already had plenty of people here say they thought it felt out of place.
I’m not sure outraged is the right word.
I can see an argument for cognitive dissonance between actions in a video game and language.
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What did the developer think WoW’s rating of “T” stood for?
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They should have used the word “wench” and be done with it. Heck, Jaina was called the B word in her novel and it was change to wench during the ingame dialog for Theramore.
Or Witch…
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I prefer wench if only because it still maintains the intent of the insult(that Sylvanas was sexually promiscuous) while it being archaic enough to not have the same impact of what is currently being used.
I don’t think Garrosh’s intention was to imply that Sylvanas was promiscuous…I think he just didn’t like her and called her a bad word (by Warcraft’s standards) to show his disdain for her.
Which is what I think got lost in all of this. His choice of language is purposeful and meant to evoke raised eyebrows. If that word seems out of place in Warcraft, that’s the point. It’s meant to stand out and had for a decade since it first went live.
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Definitely not, that’s not even what the insult is used for, lol
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I would assume wench is still a relatively bad word by Warcraft standards/an insult that evokes the same in world disdain.
And while meta wise I know it was done for shock factor, I would rather they replace it with a similarly themed insult rather than just removing the word.
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Where did anyone say the team member in question was outraged?
You guys are desperate for a controversy and it shows.
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Yeah…they changed the thing because he was happy about it.
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Feedback need not be delivered in a frothing rage despite what the forums would have you believe.
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Witch is genuinely the perfect word for this situation because it conveys everything the other word does but is PC enough to earn no scrutiny.
Are you sure about that?
This was a pretty stand-out moment and one of the more memorable ones from Cata. The fact that someone entering the team didn’t hear about this until now is really weird to me.
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If I mix my cynicism honed over decades with a little good faith by actually taking their word at all, I surmise that…
The Devs were involved in creating a game that might be fun to play through as an individual, but may also be problematic with some whelp they spawned nearby.
Conversely, any whelp is going to hear far, far worse from other whelps. Or just half a minute of unsupervised internet access.
Y’know, in the week or so since this came out, I still can’t work up a strong opinion one way or the other on it. I’m mostly just amused that a franchise that so casually throws around racism, race wars, attempted genocide, human experimentation, the destruction of souls, etc., suddenly draws a family friendly line at a bit of decade old blue language.
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It’s not that, it’s just…like as people already mentioned, Garrosh saying it just felt soo hamfisted and out of place. There are soo many different words they could’ve used that would’ve gotten the same message across
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I think it can be easy to get bogged down in one’s own perspective. It makes sense someone glossing over one word as something like ‘Garrosh confronts Sylvanas’ in a period when the entirety of WoW’s questing was redone. If I had to say what word was used before all this, I probably wouldn’t have remembered without double checking. And that’s fine.