Is it better to do 2 infernal strikes and drop sigil of flame all at once so everything gets 3 stacks, or stagger every ~6 seconds so you have more uptime? Or perhaps it doesn’t make a difference? Thanks!!
Always try to stack leap+sigil for a double.
The sigil granted from the leap doesnt stack with itself, so dont leap back-to-back. You can never get a triple.
I dunno why… must be coded differently. But thats the way it works.
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Thank you so much I didn’t know the leap sigil didn’t stack with itself!! that’ll definitely change my rotation a little bit.
Sigil does stack, or rather, roll. However, the mechanics of it are very weird. TL;DR: stack 2, don’t stack 3.
They most definitely do:
https://i.imgur.com/q6aHgMS.png
Exactly as I specified in the above linked thread, two back to back, even if both are from Leap, result in a single DoT that deals 4 ticks of 175% of normal tick damage, for a total of 233% of a single Sigil’s DoT. In order words, casting them both back-to-back results in the same damage they’d normally do plus additional damage equal to 1 tick of a single Sigil’s DoT. And as the screenshot demonstrates, that applies even if both are from Leap.
Ill bring this to the veng DH discord, let them look at it.
Thats where i got my data, so they’d probably like this
You’re misreading your logs due to how sigil of flame ticks. You cannot stack it more than twice.
/ 12/12M VDH
Read the damn logs I linked, and also my post. It can stack more than twice, but it usually will do less total DoT damage per cast than it would if you didn’t stack it thrice. However, the point of that log was to disprove the above assertion that Leap sigils don’t stack, when they definitely do.
And please, explain how I’m misreading my logs.
If you chain-cast 3 back-to-back, you’ll get the same number of ticks (4) and more damage per tick than if you cast only 2 back-to-back. However, chain-casting 3 is still a DPS loss, because while the third does technically stack, it only adds a single base tick (base tick = the damage of a single tick of the DoT from a single isolated sigil cast) of damage over 2 being stacked. However, if you cast 3 in a staggered fashion, they can stack better, and actually end up being pretty similar in DoT-damage-per-sigil as having 2 stacked. Check the thread I linked for more details.
If you think the third does nothing at all, go test it yourself. Stack two (preferably while naked aside from unenchanted weapons, to avoid procs mucking with the numbers), note the size of the DoT. Now stack all 3 back to back. You’ll still get 4 ticks, but they’ll each do ~14% more damage than the ticks of the 2-stack version. Now stagger them and add up the total, and you’ll find it very close to 50% greater than the total done by the 2-stacked DoT.
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Wow learned something new today. All this time, I had no idea the Sigil of Flame stacked at all. I always spaced out my leaps to make sure there was no overlap.
for what its worth, i found this to be completely correct. At low level 35, i do one leap, it is 25 per tic, 2 leaps on target 46, and then 2 leaps real fast with a sigil of flame cast makes only 52, so that third stack but less of a percentage