Shuffle versus Blitz rating

I don’t know if my rng is just horrible or what the deal is, but I can relatively easily push for top 50 in shuffle for my spec (e.g., currently rank 78, and based on how games feel, can climb much higher, but just don’t have it in me to sit the queues too often), and at the same time, I’m hardstuck 1750ish cr in blitz.

Before everyone says “placement games”, know that I’m 130 games deep at this point.

I’m a spec that I think has a decent amount of agency, but haven’t been in a match recently where it felt like I could have affected the outcome.

I know it’s obviously not just about bad rng, but dang, I don’t know how some people made it look so easy to get up to Elite rank and even 3k+ now. Is there something I’m missing?

Are the skillsets required to climb in blitz that much different from arena? Do I need another 100-200 games under my belt before I even think about what rating I’m at?

I don’t even care about my rating, just curious.

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Yeah.

Killing the other person trapped in a cage with you =/= capturing/controlling objectives with proper rotations, cc.

Yes, MMR was extremely broken week 1 of Blitz being available. Players pushed 2400 without much effort and then the entire CR / MMR distribution was nerfed.

Anyone who didn’t push when it was essentially bugged is now facing those consequences.

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I just went 10-2 on my new DK and am already like 2600 mmr.

There’s a few specs/roles capable of making enormous impact on the outcome of a game. Everyone else is at the mercy of their performance being a minor +/- and just has to hope they have a good streak of being on the less stupid team enough times in a row to get their MMR up some.

Whatever they did with the last patch seemed to help. My alt MW was like 22-4 at one point and Jim and I were constantly at like 1600 MMR. Lol

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RNG gonna RNG. I got absolutely awful teammates for the first 4 games I played on this Ret and decided right then and there blitz isn’t a bracket I want to play in.

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Initially you were stucko 1300-1500 mmr until like 25 games played.

Placements seem to be entirely gone now.

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They’re very different. Blitz is very objective-oriented, while shuffle’s only objective is first blood.

You have to maximize your personal impact on objectives in each Blitz map. Not even just through gameplay, but also communication.

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I just kind of expected to leave placements and be like 3k MMR since I had one of the best WLs I’ve ever seen at the time. Lol

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I’m 9-0 on a lock and at 1500 mmr but my rouge who is like 10-5 is 2800 mmr blitz mmr is so confusing to me.

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I had a game with you the other day and I thought you played it really well. Frost mage is just something people have seen again and again and again, so they know a lot of the tricks with it.

There are some slick ways to make the games go more in your favor thought, DW Gorge for example has the CD reset buttons which I like to use on my priest for removing cd on my cc abilities or kicks on other toons.

A lot of it, and I mean a majority of it is just qing. Eventually you’ll hit a win, or even a streak of them and catapault to an insane mmr. Then you’ll inevitably tank out of it, and then get it again.

Blitz is just insane w/the mmr (insane meaning entirely broken).

My other rsham is like 10-1 @ 1900 mmr, my lock is I think 3-3 as Demo and my last boby was a 2.5k one???

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Too many variables in Blitz

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Not really no. Less skill is required in RBGs tbh. If you’re good at arena your skills will easily transfer over.

Or, you can be highly intelligent like me and progress fast.

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I really enjoy getting 150cr a win in blitz, then i hit 1500 and im at 2200mmr and i only get 23 points for a win…

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Ain’t cool to be no jive turkey so close to Thanksgiving.

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queue another 870 games and you will know whether u were just unlucky or if you belong at that rating.

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Blitz is heavily rng, easier to influence an outcome when its you and 5 other player instead of you and 15 other players.
You get plenty so subhumans at 2400+ mmr who just got lucky. Bracket sucks.

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Skill sets are somewhat different, but not by much. Really depends on the spec. Like for MW it’s a night and day difference. If you’re mostly a damage dealer, not much changes.

Blitz requires a lot of games. RNG alone can set you back 200-400+ mmr/cr. I have two enhance shams. One is 2470 and has a mmr of 2800 with the lowest match count of anyone that’s 2400+. I have plenty of buffer to hit some high ratings. My other shaman… I can’t buy a win for the life of me. I keep getting put into the worst comps possible. It’s legitimately infuriating. I keep getting matches where I’m the ONLY one losing points. That shouldn’t be possible. The stupid match making needs to take into account both MMR and actual CR.

https://imgur.com/CFskstc

That shouldn’t happen.

https://imgur.com/wvKGS4S

But it does, over and over and over. Look at this one.

https://imgur.com/a/HN3zNbF

Look at the massive difference in ACTUAL CR vs MMR. You have all these BLOATED MMRs of players still in their placement games and then… me.

SWEET GAME BLIZZ!!1 ugg.

In the end you have to lean into what you’re good at as well, while also making sure whatever your spec is good at is covered.

https://imgur.com/a/XqPUJYi

So if it’s doing damage and getting kills… well, focus on that hard. If it’s a mage, you’re guarding nodes if there are no stealths. If you’re in team fights, pick a healer and lock them down while doing damage. If you want to be proactive, call out kick assignments and if you have to, call basic strats. At 1700-1800, usually it just takes a slight amount of organization to win. Past that, pray.

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Thanks for the replies all, appreciate it. I guess at the end of the day I have to just keep hitting the queue button and let things work themselves out :slight_smile:

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Blitz sucks. Honestly seems like anything with more than 10 players can’t be competitive.

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