Should Deadly Boss Mods and/or Weak Auras be Banned?

[Annastasi-proudmoore]

@Twinkletorch-moon-guard

if an addon is centralizing such that it’s basically required – I have had DBM installed since like, Karazhan – and Blizzard is designing around that addon, they need to incorporate that addon into the game’s base UI if they want to help keep the game accessible.

something being in an addon doesn’t mean it’s not accessible. any potato can install an addon, there is literally no barrier to entry there.

We have MORE functionality and MORE customization with these things being addons than we would if blizz incorporated them into the base ui.

I don’t think that’s something we should push to give up.

[Jietu-stormrage]

@Annastasi-proudmoore

We have MORE functionality and MORE customization with these things being addons than we would if blizz incorporated them into the base ui.

Considering blizzard pruned 90% of the ui options in Legion for no reason I would never trust them with incorporating something like dbm in the game.

[Edgyjojomeme-nathrezim]

i wonder how raids would look if people didn’t have all those helpers. I can disable it for myself, but since i’m a demon hunter and can ignore 80% of mechanics i wouldnt notice. But entire raid? It should be so much fun.

Will never happen tho

[Margirita-perenolde (Margirita)]

I’m ok running on a haunted toaster with only DBM… But soon I shall get a new gaming rig and when I’s able run weak Aura’s too mauhahahahahaha beware!

Right now I’m stuck with a haunted toaster.

[Fulgrim-area-52]

DBM should be banned for that horrendous airhorn sound (no one wanted) alone.

[Getitup-thunderlord]

without addons the game would be extremely mundane…dbm doesnt really do anything accept give you a better warning than blizzard does. when you have a million things going on its actually kinda hard to tell wtf is happening or where you should be standing or whatever. dbm just lets you know to prepare for whatever it is thats about to happen. most if it is still based on memorizing the mechanics regardless if you know about it or not…you still have to actively play properly in order to not die. also…if they removed addons like one bag, and ice hud, and bartender, selljunk, easyframes, and all of the quality of life addons that absolutely dont affect gameplay at all the game would be horrendous. The ability to customize the u.i. and set the game up exactly how you want it is what part of what makes it fun to play…and makes it continue to be fun to play. anyone can set up the game almost anyway they want to…completely to their own liking. If they removed addons I wouldnt be able to enjoy the game at all…im sure a lot of people feel the same way. its been 15 years of being able to design your game the way you want to play it…if they remove that the game will most likely die.

[Lîlithvia-moon-guard]

what

are you seriously suggesting DBM and WA are used to gatekeep?

All they do is tell you what’s going on…

[Floofshire-area-52]

@Dromlock-wyrmrest-accord

Since we are on the topic of banning addons this week I was wondering what folks would think of banning Deadly Boss Mods / Weak Auras. I think a strong argument can be made that these addons have a large impact on Raiding and Mythic + that may or may not be healthy for the game.

The dev team already admitted that they design encounters with DBM in mind. I would imagine that they have to ramp up the complexity and difficulty more than they would otherwise. Maybe having mechanics that were more simple but you had no idea when they were happening would be more fun instead of what we have today.

So would you play Shadowlands if DBM was banned?

I haven’t used addons since Wrath. People still use DBM? Why…? The game has DBM built in now. Lol

[Verdre-silvermoon (Verdre)]

@Floofshire-area-52

The game has DBM built in now.

It may have a few features of DBM built in, but by and large, you still need DBM or the equivalent. DBM is more than “big attack coming in!” announcement.

[Twinkletorch-moon-guard]

Lots of people making assumptions that the game incorporating features of DBM more actively inherently… prevents people from using DBM?

That’s not how it’s been 95% of the time that Blizzard adopts add-on features into the core UI, it usually just means a rewrite of the addon and it runs with less overhead.