what about a pistol and shield?
smaller ask.
shamans should get⌠availability to be any raceâŚ
They could just give shaman to humans⌠But nooooo thatâs immersion breaking
As an RP player, Iâd rather they didnât make Blood Elves or Humans eligible to be Shamans. It does not make sense.
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Blood Elves, I get it.
But why not Humans?
Like, the concept of a âShamanâ came from IRL Shamans, and they are all Humans lol
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Well shaman cant use swords so i guess thats /threads
Youâre a roleplayer but you canât come up with your own story for how humans would come to practice shamanism?
Apparently, even Ion says he is a shaman.
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Shadow Hunters ARE Shaman, from the moment they were introduced.
You know they should have just made Shadow Hunter a shaman heroic spec. Better then totemic.
In World of Warcraft lore, human culture is deeply rooted in the Holy Light, a structured religion that emphasizes order, and zealous faith. This contrasts sharply with shamanism, which centers on balance with the chaotic elemental forces and spiritual communion with nature and ancestors. The two belief systems conflict both philosophically and culturally, making shamanism feel foreign to most humans in Azeroth. Real-world shamanism is vastly different from how itâs portrayed in World of Warcraft. In actual shamanic traditions, most cultures are deeply rooted in indigenous practices that typically do not allow outsiders to participate. For instance I had to be formally initiated in the past to be allowed in certain traditions. It is not common for people outside the culture to be a part of indigenous spiritual practices.
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Also if Goblins can be shamans BECAUSE of their mercantilism and thrifty nature, then so can humans. Humans are arguably the alliance side equivalent of goblins. They are definitely not as laissez-faire but scheming and greedy humans certainly do exist and would learn how to persuade the elements like the goblins do.
But humans can be classes that arenât priest or paladin. They can be warlock, and rogue. Very much not zealous light-filled.
Blood Elves as introduced are closer to being ancestor worshippers than light worshippers, fwiw - the only buildings identified in religious terms in Quelâthalas in BC are the 3 shrines of the moon
Also Goblin shamans and orc dark shamans already make the distinction silly, there have been blood and night elf shaman NPCs already.
And yet they can be Warlocks, since Vanilla.
Warlocks wield Fel Magic. Fel Magic is the magic of Chaos.
So the idea that Humans are too orderly to be Shamans doesnât hold water when they can be avatars of Chaos itself.
In the lore Blood Elves donât explicitly worship ancestors in the way some other races do. Furthermore the elemental spirits pick shamans based on thier culture and ties to natural forces. The elementals would likely not be interested in Blood Elves because Blood Elf culture centers around arcane magic, mana manipulation, and later fel energies. The elementals are unlikely to be drawn to them. Moreover, Blood Elves generally regards shamanism as a primitive practice, inferior to the study of arcane magic.
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If you read my previous statement on Real-world shamanism and indigenous practices you would understand that one must be invited into these practices by the others who practice it. You must also be selected by the spirits. Culture heavily matters. It is a religion not just magic. The very culture and behaviors of the humans in Warcraft are in conflict with the spiritual practices. Much like Goblin Shamans are in conflict with it. Goblins are very disrespectful to the elementals. This sort of behavior would not be tolerated in real indigenous spiritual practices.
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The Kul Tirans can invite them, they have Shamans.
Invite Thunderaan to live in Stormwind and sponsor them. As the Elemental Lord of Wind, he is going to love living in a place called âStormwindâ lol
They could certainly extend an invitation, but ultimately, itâs up to the elemental spirits to accept them. Humans, much like modern Western civilizations, often lack a deep, intrinsic connection to the natural world. Thereâs a common misconception that simply desiring access to something means itâs yours for the takingâbut thatâs not how these traditions function. True connection with the spiritual world must be earned, not claimed.
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I love new age culture soup passing itself off as activism
RL Shamanism is siberian, not some vague indigeneity blob
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Voldo from⌠Soul Caliber?