Paladins have and will continue to absolutely outperform anything horde has access to in PvP.
You… literally just described the entirety of SoD… So there’s nothing to do outside of playing the game…
Don’t worry, they’ll buff shamans back up to par once all the FoTM rerollers go back to playing pally…
Maybe.
except mages devs love mages
This is why I’m hoping Ret Paladin stays bad dps in Phase 3. Because we’re pretty fun and strong to play in PvP, but so long as we’re not topping the dps meters, Blizzard won’t have any reason to gut us!
ANY shaman nerf is a good thing. Keep on swinging that nerf bat Blizzard. Thanks!
it wasn’t that sham was too strong, it was why they were too strong. double rb needed to go away as soon as they changed SR. the only reason wf/rb was used in pve is because if you ran rb/rb then youre the tank.
I mean the combined mana for Flame Shock and Molten blast which are the moves they intended for you to use while shaman tanking is 400-500 mana. When shamans were dual wielding lava lash and stormstrike combined is less that 75 mana.
if they knew anything about how any of this works than way of the earth would also reduce all mana costs of spells by 50% or more…
Really? lmao if you don’t think EVERYONE noticed a MASSIVE influx of shamans in pvp in P2? You are legit delusional.
Sounds like shamans need nerfed harder imo
It’s almost like shamans ran over everything PvP and PvE whether be Tank or DPS for over 2 months with not a single thing done to them…while every other class that has been even LESS OP got maybe a week of that. Weird…Don’t worry though Ele Shamans still slap.
Oh, poor little FOTM rerolls are crying their eyes out. I promise to shed 1 tear tomorrow. That’s right, ONE COMPLETE tear. You’re welcome.
As all those same very shamans told us “git gud” lmao deserved
That was actually a 3 global usage minimum, so more than 2 seconds. Try counting!
Cry more horde scum
???
Warriors the only ones that duel world for threat eh?
If there’s one thing the entire playerbase should know by now, it’s that you DO NOT want to be the OP class of the moment.
When the axe falls it takes your head!
Your wrong alot of shaman mains called for nurfs. This was over the top for no clear reason.
There’s about 20 shamans who averaged 200 posts a day turbo flaming anyone who insisted Shaman was overperforming.
This nerf didn’t even address the additional problematic issues with shaman kit.
- Spirit of Alpha should be 30% at most, realistically 20%
- Loyal Beta shouldn’t exist, period. It’s a support rune.
- Tranquil Air should not work with Alpha / Beta at all.
- Shield Mastery needs 8%/0S IGCD → 5%/1S IGCD
- Lava Lash needs to require Flametongue offhand, not bonus from it.
- WoTE 30% is insane - should be 20%.
- WoTE should not give crit immunity UNLESS Hand of Reckoning also gives crit immunity.
- WoTE should not give passive damage taken reduction if it also gives hp/anti crit.
- Dual Wield Specialization needs to have 10% hit removed, way too strong.
- Spell batching for LB → NS → EM → CL → Nova Totem → ES for 4 100% crit needs fixing
- Molten Burst is insanely strong for very little skill expression. Best/easiest AoE TPS in game.
Just to name a few overperforming shaman tank metrics compared to other tanks. This isn’t even apples-to-apples of comparing to Paladin tank which is currently the worst in the game, but comparing them to other high performing tanks such as Meta.
However, Resto Shaman needs some significant love. All healers that aren’t disc priest should be offended every single update that they aren’t the primary focus, because healing is terrible + every healer has terrible runes except Disc.
crying about pre-phase numbers is the same as crying about pre-xpack numbers, it makes no sense, the balancing was made for lvl 50 with the new runes, we have none of that